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Post 1

The Ghost Of TV's Frink

Hi Bruce!

My homepage looks ever so normal in I.E., but when I try to open it in Netscape, it searches, and searches, and searches, and yet never seems to find my page. Hmmmmmmm. Perhaps you can help?

Thanks in advance,
TVF


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Post 2

Bruce

Hiya

I guess the site recognises you in your Netscape disguise smiley - smiley

What version of Netscape is it? Does it have javascript capabilities? You homepage is a bit heavy on the javascript.

;^)#


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Post 3

The Ghost Of TV's Frink

I've got Communicator 4.06. I checked and both Java and Javascript are enabled. The odd thing is that I've looked at my page before with netscape and didn't notice a problem. Someone asked me yesterday why my page wasn't working - that's what made me check it with netscape. hmmmmmmmmm.......


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Post 4

Skizz

Not entirely sure how I ended up here, but I tried to load the page in Netscape 4.7, nothing appears. (Apart from the h2g2 border)


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Post 5

Bruce

Any idea what you've changed on the page recently?
Could you check one of the other ACEs page or my page in Netscape - it might be the new badge maybe smiley - sadface


;^)#


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Post 6

Luna(Queen of Hearts)

Just popped in to add my two cents, since I'm the one who asked about Frink's page.
I haven't been able to access it for at least a week via Netscape. All other areas seem fine.
I can get there with IE, but mine seems soooo much slower than NS.
Oh, seems it wouldn't access Skeleton's off h2g2 website, either. (according to JF2K)

Luna


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Post 7

Bruce

Hiya,
A bit of hunting round the web & DHTML/CSS documentation leads me to believe that it's this thats causing the problem in Netscape


A:hover {color=cyan !important; text-decoration: none !important)


Netscape documentation says that !important is an "unsupported CSS attribute".

Netscape is usually very unforgiving about non supported elements & will refuse to execute non implemented attributes whereas IE will just overlook them.

So you could try taking out the !important attributes & see if that fixes the problem in Netscape.

The other bit of information I found was a suggestion that A:hover is only implemented in IE4 & later. Netscapes documentation is silent on the matter & that attribute in general. If removing the !important doesn't work you might have to try removing the whole section.

If that solves the problem you can either remove that section permanently or wrap it in browser sniffer code so that its only executed in IE4 or later.

Let me know how you go.

hope it helps smiley - smiley
;^)#
ps I didnt have a link to Skeletons off site page so I couldn't check if the same problem was there - there isnt a link on his h2g2 page currently.


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Post 8

The Ghost Of TV's Frink

Hi Bruce, you genius you!

Removing the !important fixed it straight away. Whatever you asked for this holiday season, may you see it doubled smiley - smiley

Now if only you could find Fenchurch's missing fish........

Thanks Bruce!
-TVF


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Post 9

Bruce

No worries.

;^)#


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Post 10

Luna(Queen of Hearts)

Skelly's gone and he removed most of the links to him outside h2g2.

Long story.........

Luna


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Post 11

The Ghost Of TV's Frink

Hi Bruce!

After telling you it worked when I removed the "!important" tags, I checked again and it wasn't working in netscape. smiley - sadface So this time I removed the entire hover command and now it seems to work fine. Here is my question - is there coding I can use where the hover will still show up in IE, but Netscape will just ignore it and still load the page up? I know you said earlier that I could wrap in in browser sniffer code (or something like that), but I don't really know what that is or how to do it.

Thanks again in advance, and take your time replying - it's the holidays and all smiley - smiley

-TVF


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Post 12

Bruce

Hi
Sorry for the delay.
One thing you could try is to fix the closing bracket at the end of the A:hover -it's currently opened with { & closed with )
It reads

A:hover {color=cyan !important; text-decoration: none !important)


& should read

A:hover {color=cyan !important; text-decoration: none !important}



Maybe that's what's upsetting Netscape.

Unfortunately I haven't found a bit of browser sb=niffer code that will let you set the style for IE4 or greater but I'll keep looking/thinking.

;^)#



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Post 13

The Ghost Of TV's Frink

Well, what do you know - that fixed it! Thanks Bruce smiley - smiley


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Post 14

Bruce

Apparently, M/S understands that users might make typos & N/Scape doesn't. It must be something to do with the marketing department smiley - winkeye

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