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The Ghost Of TV's Frink Started conversation Dec 20, 1999
Hi Bruce!
My homepage looks ever so normal in I.E., but when I try to open it in Netscape, it searches, and searches, and searches, and yet never seems to find my page. Hmmmmmmm. Perhaps you can help?
Thanks in advance,
TVF
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Bruce Posted Dec 20, 1999
Hiya
I guess the site recognises you in your Netscape disguise
What version of Netscape is it? Does it have javascript capabilities? You homepage is a bit heavy on the javascript.
;^)#
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The Ghost Of TV's Frink Posted Dec 21, 1999
I've got Communicator 4.06. I checked and both Java and Javascript are enabled. The odd thing is that I've looked at my page before with netscape and didn't notice a problem. Someone asked me yesterday why my page wasn't working - that's what made me check it with netscape. hmmmmmmmmm.......
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Skizz Posted Dec 21, 1999
Not entirely sure how I ended up here, but I tried to load the page in Netscape 4.7, nothing appears. (Apart from the h2g2 border)
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Bruce Posted Dec 21, 1999
Any idea what you've changed on the page recently?
Could you check one of the other ACEs page or my page in Netscape - it might be the new badge maybe
;^)#
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Luna(Queen of Hearts) Posted Dec 21, 1999
Just popped in to add my two cents, since I'm the one who asked about Frink's page.
I haven't been able to access it for at least a week via Netscape. All other areas seem fine.
I can get there with IE, but mine seems soooo much slower than NS.
Oh, seems it wouldn't access Skeleton's off h2g2 website, either. (according to JF2K)
Luna
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Bruce Posted Dec 22, 1999
Hiya,
A bit of hunting round the web & DHTML/CSS documentation leads me to believe that it's this thats causing the problem in Netscape
A:hover {color=cyan !important; text-decoration: none !important)
Netscape documentation says that !important is an "unsupported CSS attribute".
Netscape is usually very unforgiving about non supported elements & will refuse to execute non implemented attributes whereas IE will just overlook them.
So you could try taking out the !important attributes & see if that fixes the problem in Netscape.
The other bit of information I found was a suggestion that A:hover is only implemented in IE4 & later. Netscapes documentation is silent on the matter & that attribute in general. If removing the !important doesn't work you might have to try removing the whole section.
If that solves the problem you can either remove that section permanently or wrap it in browser sniffer code so that its only executed in IE4 or later.
Let me know how you go.
hope it helps
;^)#
ps I didnt have a link to Skeletons off site page so I couldn't check if the same problem was there - there isnt a link on his h2g2 page currently.
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The Ghost Of TV's Frink Posted Dec 22, 1999
Hi Bruce, you genius you!
Removing the !important fixed it straight away. Whatever you asked for this holiday season, may you see it doubled
Now if only you could find Fenchurch's missing fish........
Thanks Bruce!
-TVF
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Luna(Queen of Hearts) Posted Dec 22, 1999
Skelly's gone and he removed most of the links to him outside h2g2.
Long story.........
Luna
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The Ghost Of TV's Frink Posted Dec 23, 1999
Hi Bruce!
After telling you it worked when I removed the "!important" tags, I checked again and it wasn't working in netscape. So this time I removed the entire hover command and now it seems to work fine. Here is my question - is there coding I can use where the hover will still show up in IE, but Netscape will just ignore it and still load the page up? I know you said earlier that I could wrap in in browser sniffer code (or something like that), but I don't really know what that is or how to do it.
Thanks again in advance, and take your time replying - it's the holidays and all
-TVF
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Bruce Posted Jan 8, 2000
Hi
Sorry for the delay.
One thing you could try is to fix the closing bracket at the end of the A:hover -it's currently opened with { & closed with )
It reads
A:hover {color=cyan !important; text-decoration: none !important)
& should read
A:hover {color=cyan !important; text-decoration: none !important}
Maybe that's what's upsetting Netscape.
Unfortunately I haven't found a bit of browser sb=niffer code that will let you set the style for IE4 or greater but I'll keep looking/thinking.
;^)#
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Bruce Posted Jan 21, 2000
Apparently, M/S understands that users might make typos & N/Scape doesn't. It must be something to do with the marketing department
;^)#
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- 1: The Ghost Of TV's Frink (Dec 20, 1999)
- 2: Bruce (Dec 20, 1999)
- 3: The Ghost Of TV's Frink (Dec 21, 1999)
- 4: Skizz (Dec 21, 1999)
- 5: Bruce (Dec 21, 1999)
- 6: Luna(Queen of Hearts) (Dec 21, 1999)
- 7: Bruce (Dec 22, 1999)
- 8: The Ghost Of TV's Frink (Dec 22, 1999)
- 9: Bruce (Dec 22, 1999)
- 10: Luna(Queen of Hearts) (Dec 22, 1999)
- 11: The Ghost Of TV's Frink (Dec 23, 1999)
- 12: Bruce (Jan 8, 2000)
- 13: The Ghost Of TV's Frink (Jan 16, 2000)
- 14: Bruce (Jan 21, 2000)
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