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Post 1

Peanut

Could anyone tell me what the first order differential of a stretched expontential function is algebriacly.

I ask not for myself, (in which case you would have to be not only friendly but would have talk really slowly for a very long time) but for a friend of mine, who understands these things.

Apparently it would make his graphs much more pretty and it peeves him that he can only do these things numerically.

Drinks, cakes, much adulation alround if you could provide an answer, or explaination if a solution is too difficult to come by

smiley - cheers Peanut




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Post 2

Orcus

what's a 'stretched' exponential function?

Differentials of exponentials are dead easy otherwise...


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Post 3

Orcus

OK, it's as described here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stretched_exponential_function

gotta smiley - run at the moment. Will think some more on it later.


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Post 4

toybox

Ach, crivens. Not hard to doo, but you have to decompose everything. Lemme see if I can still do it. Warning, grotty formulas ahead.

f(t) = exp{-(t/k)^b} = exp{-exp(b.ln(t/k))} = exp(g(t))

then f'(t) = g'(t) exp(g(t))

Compute g'(t) = -(b/k)*(t/k)^(b-1) using the usual rules for the differential of exponentials.

Put everything together and you get:


smiley - drumroll f'(t) = -(b/k)*(t/k)^(b-1) exp{-(t/k)^b}.


And you can check that the formula is true in the classical case b=1 (which was not the case of my previous few results smiley - blush) This is no warranty that the result is true, but it helps against gross errors.


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Post 5

Peanut

Toybox,

There were ohhs and ahhs, followed by 'I see' down the phone then an explitive as as subscribtion had lapsed so he couldn't try it out at home to make his graphs pretty smiley - laugh

Many thanks, much adulation, smiley - cake and drinks of choice are yours,

Peanut


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Post 6

toybox

Explaining that on the phone? A most gallant task smiley - biggrin

smiley - cake


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Post 7

Peanut

Took one look and guided him to page while on phone smiley - laugh


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Post 8

toybox

Ha, sissies smiley - winkeye


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Post 9

Peanut

In my case, so true, that sort of thing makes me go weak at the knees smiley - biggrin


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Post 10

Mu Beta

I enjoyed 'ach crivens' but gave up thereafter.

B


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Post 11

8584330

*wanders in late, as usual*

Subscription has lapsed? Is that subscription for some package that does the pretty graphing?

If so, you (or perhaps he) may wish to check out http://www.sagemath.org, which is a free and open source alternative to stuff I can't afford, like Mathematica. smiley - winkeye Take that, Wolfram. smiley - laugh

Found out about sagemath.org at last month's nerd-fest, I mean, math conference.

smiley - smiley
HN


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