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Stealth "Jack" Azathoth Posted Oct 18, 2003
When I was younger I too believed in the argument for faked moon landing but now I older and wiser...
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abbi normal "Putting on the Ritz" with Dr Frankenstein Posted Oct 21, 2003
Buzz doesn't like it when people say that!
He punched someone for saying so
I believe they went to the moon.
They left trash.
Where there is man, there is trash.
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Werty Posted Oct 21, 2003
true buzz would punch you for saying that, but buzz is just a toy so what does he know. can you proove that they left trash.
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cannonballchester Posted Feb 13, 2006
I also do not believe this occured as there are many things that disprove the landing. Such as, there is a radiation belt calles the van allen belt, this would kill anyone who entered or pass through it. Also the exit if the space craft was too small for them to exit when thay had their gear on. There also seems to be no stars in the sky in any of the pictures. And my last but not least, the lighting of all the pictures are all wrong as there seem to be too many shadows.
But thats my point of view with evidience i've picked up.
Try and prove me wrong.
Chester
Age 15
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Baron Grim Posted Feb 13, 2006
There craft was sheilded for radiation but yes, some of the astronauts have been treated for tumors and cancer since then.
The exit was NOT too small for their gear.
There will not be any stars in the shots because the moon is lit just like the earth is, by bright sunlight. The camra's exposure was set for the bright seen on the surface, not for the dim stars in the background.
Just saying "all wrong" is not an argument for the shadows. I personally handled and scanned all the film for our archives. I have over twenty years experience in photography... there is absolutely nothing wrong with any of the shadows.
Don't believe everything some conspiracy theorists write. I've met some of the astronauts that went to the moon personally. I work at the Johnson Space Center in Houston, Texas. So, I know something about this.
Oh, and Lunar is spelled with an A.
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STRANGELY STRANGE ( A brain on a spring ) Posted Feb 13, 2006
Hi Chester,
personally I think they did go to the moon. There was a programme on TV that answered all the points raised by you, they had the view points of a lot of people, those who thought they did go to moon, and those who didn't. It was interesting in that a lot of the people who said they didn't go to moon had made some finantial gain from saying moon landing was fake, like the journalist who wrote a book saying moon landing was faked.
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To fake a moon landing one heck of a lot of people must have lied and kept the secret for a long time, which is odd as usually people are quing up to sell a story and make money.
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I watched the programme which investigated whether the landing was faked, one point always raised is that the landing vehicle is lite the opposite side to where the sun is in a photograph. Well I am no space scientist, but I used to sell a few photographs to papers and could see straight away that the light was bouncing straight off the very bright moon surface and lighting up the dark side of landing vehicle, just like you get on a sandy beach (which is why you can get a slight suntan under a beach umbrella)
The programme also explained not being able to see stars.....I think the problem is that people are comparing lighting effects, etc to the Earth with its atmospher.
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What I think is sad, is that people died going into space and some people are quite happy to make a quick buck out of making up stories about moon landing being fake!
......and lets face it, people will find the junk we left there eventually, either through another visit, or advanced telescopes.
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Baron Grim Posted Feb 13, 2006
Several of the pieces of "junk" on the moon are retro-reflective mirrors that were (and can still be) used to reflect a laser beam back to the Earth. Many science students have done just that to measure the distance between the Earth and the moon.
For more info see: http://pages.sbcglobal.net/webster.kehr/Chapters/Chapter100-LLR.htm
http://funphysics.jpl.nasa.gov/technical/grp/lunar-laser.html
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Langly Posted Feb 13, 2006
Go read 'Moondust – In Search Of The Men Who Fell To Earth' by Andrew Smith. In it he tracks down and interviews the dwindling elite of men who've looked at our world from the surface of another – only 9 and counting at the date of publication. It's an amazing account of their experiences both during their lunar trip, and since they returned. There's no way they're lying, nor would I have the temerity to suggest that they are.
Lx
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Baron Grim Posted Feb 13, 2006
Most of the arguments put forth by the conspiracy theorists are easily rebutted by a trip to the library. Most of those that believe the conspiracies do not want to find the (obvious) proof that those theories are invalid.
One of my favourite "proofs" is the waving flag. They argue that the flag is blowing in the breeze and that since there is no atmosphere on the moon it must be faked. The reason the flag is waving is precisely because there is no atmosphere on the moon. As the flag was placed it was jostled and therefore would be swinging back and forth. Since there's no air to dampen this movement it would continue for quite some time until the friction within the fibers of the flag itself damped its movement. Everytime I've tried to point this (and other things for other arguments) out to people they shut off their brains and refuse to listen.
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Baron Grim Posted Feb 13, 2006
They did, but since it was between their toes and in their navels, not many folks were that interested.
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Woodpigeon Posted Feb 14, 2006
Then there's the issue of the 382 kg of moon rocks on Earth, some of which is available for public view in museums around the world. How did it get here? You don't hear geologists (who you would think would know about such things) anywhere shouting about them being fakes. Neither did you see Soviet scientists shouting about the Moon landings being fakes, and you would imagine that they of all people would have said so.
Over 400,000 people were involved in the US Space programme during the 1960's. Nearly half a million people. Now how big would a government security organisation need to be to keep such a stark "secret", shared by so many people, suppressed?
Another book worth a look at is Andrew Chaikin's "Men on the Moon" - it recounts the human experience, in the words of the astronauts, of the moon journeys, right from the Apollo 1 fire to the last mission to the Moon. These were people who worked hard for years and years to get to the Moon, knowing they might die in the attempt. They don't come across as arch-fakers who were out to con the entire human race, but maybe I have a slightly higher regard for human nature than other people.
Just because you don't believe something can happen doesn't mean it didn't happen. All it means is you don't understand it enough.
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swl Posted Feb 14, 2006
The risks to America of a hoax being uncovered were far greater than the risks of not making it to the moon. If they had tried and failed, there would have been no outcry. If they had been caught making it up, the entire space industry would have been dismantled, Presidents impeached, political careers destroyed etc.
We went to the moon.
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STRANGELY STRANGE ( A brain on a spring ) Posted Mar 17, 2006
Count-Zero
They have just shown on UK TV a little about the mirrors you mentioned were placed on moon when they landed there.
They showed the astronauts placing the equipment and 4 mirrors used to measure moon's distance and position.
At the telescope and lazer site on earth, they showed the scientists fireing the lazer, the lazer shooting up and bouncing off moon's mirrors and coming back into telescope.
They fire the lazer around 200 times per year and the scientist has offered moon landing sceptics an open invitation to come and see a lazer fireing, but he said sceptics chose to ignor this conclusive proof of a moon landing as they can't explain it away
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