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abbi normal "Putting on the Ritz" with Dr Frankenstein Started conversation Aug 16, 2004
The Govenor of New Jersey is gay whoop do- do!
Who cares?
Does HE think that affects voters more than having hired a non-citizen as the head of security? The state is across the bay from New York City for Gods sake.
I feel sorry for those affected by his double life but I doubt seriously it was all that much of a secret or a hinderance. People in the press have suggested he come out for years because everybody knew.
So why did he resign this way?
Is it some sort of reverse descrimination or self recrimination?
I hope even he has not fooled himself to the point of seeing things as he has stated them if the rest of the story is true.
Being gay is no reason to leave office.
This borders on treason or endargerment by messing with National Security in one of the top what 3-4 spots on high alert.
This also makes me mad; one reason previously sited for gays and women not being in the military were sexual problems plus possible blackmails likely interfering with security.
It seems he is selling far more than himself short on this deal.
To use his sexuality as an excuse to leave when it is not the reason is exploitaion of gays in general isn't it?
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In another absurd instance of using the National Security excuse-
It was suggested ( by top official *A*)that cheaper medications not be reimported due to the possibility of terrorists tampering>>>Bogus Reason! #200(guessing) not to make medications available and affordable here in the US.
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pheloxi | is it time to wear a hat? | Posted Aug 16, 2004
I understand he was blackmailed by one of his aides.
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Researcher 185550 Posted Aug 16, 2004
This is going to be an interesting case in psychology.
Wait, has he officially resigned at all? If not, it would be very interesting to see whether homophobia would win (the likely option) or if, now that it seems things are that way, the citizens of the state feel that that is the way they *should* be and keep him.
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Ivan the Terribly Average Posted Aug 16, 2004
I'm appalled to think that homosexuality is considered by *anyone* to be something that makes a person unfit for public office. For crying out loud, there are at least four gay men in the current Australian parliament - and that includes one party leader. One of the best governors my home state has had was a very distinguished judge and academic who happened to be a lesbian. (Note: Australian governors aren't elected, they're appointed representatives of the Crown. Viceroys, if you will.)
If this bloke thinks that being gay is more of a reason to resign than a potentially dodgy political appointment, I feel sorry for him. If the electorate thinks it's a reason to resign, I'm deeply concerned...
If the issue is marital infidelity, I'm even more puzzled. There's all sorts of secret relationships going on in Parliament here, but it's not an electoral issue...
Ivan.
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pheloxi | is it time to wear a hat? | Posted Aug 16, 2004
I am not sure if it is only prpblem that he is gay, but thet he is married (to his wife) at same time is problem for a lot.
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smurfles Posted Aug 16, 2004
i can't understand why anyone should have a problem with him been gay.It doeesn't diminish his capabilities to do his job for heavens sake!!Iam sure that his wife must know,maybe their marriage works for them quite well,no matter what his sexuality is.If that is the case,and they,re both happy,then it shouldn't be a problem em for anyone else!!!!
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Smudger879n Posted Aug 16, 2004
Why is it that we always find the Bad things about peolpe in public service splashed all over the front pages
We never see the papers publish any good stuff about them! any way, what difference does it make, like already mentioned by someone, it doest stop him for doing the job he was Voted in for!
Smudger,
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abbi normal "Putting on the Ritz" with Dr Frankenstein Posted Aug 16, 2004
I think a person will be filing suit for sexual harrassment.
One man says he sustained unwanted asexual advances.
Still it's not a gay issue, that is a power issue.
He "used" the gay issue and his infidelity to resign.
Neither of these matter as much as whether he is doing his job legally.There are many questionable practices, all the more reason to not use his personal life as an excuse to leave office.
Goofy how he stated he would not leave until after the elections! That takes nerve! I am not sure anything can be done except through the legal process. That takes time..
The man he put in the position for head of security may be the same person you are speaking of Pheloxi. The man I spoke of is a non citizen in a sensitive security position with a view of NY city. He started out in a lower position of course.
It is a real mess and nobody knows all of the details yet.
Him being gay is not the problem or the solution.
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Ivan you said what I meant better and shorter than I did Thanks
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Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor Posted Aug 16, 2004
The man I'm divorcing is a closet gay.
I hope the wife in this case knew, because I certainly didn't.
Not until I found the gay porn on his pc, and it was hard-core stuff that has to be paid for by credit card, before you can access it.
Gay/underage/Rape sites.
Nice shock.
It's not true that "the wife should know".
And it's the worst deception one human being can do to another, it's total self-denial for the sake of appearances.
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abbi normal "Putting on the Ritz" with Dr Frankenstein Posted Aug 17, 2004
Aw how painful for you
I had two friends in my twenties whom married and this happened . It also happened with one brother and his new wife. I think the shock and trauma of the experience helped get them together once they opened up about it.
It can destroy lives and seriously mess with your mind when people stay in the closet. There are some reports that his first marriage ended do to this topic. He married again! IF it is true -did he think there was a "cure"?
There are people that willing marry as convienence but that is their business and quite different. I would not put it past any polititian making this kind of arrangement, although it's sad anybody feels the need to.
This is one mess I do not think I can blame totally on the Republicans since he is one
I will be the first to say it is an outrage if he has had to leave due to No crime or high betrayl of office. IF he has been blackmailed by his own party or state then that should be bigger news.
I do not think the it's the case.
We will maybe find out some day.
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abbi normal "Putting on the Ritz" with Dr Frankenstein Posted Aug 20, 2004
Um I think the guy is a Democrat.
Darn I ment to recheck that before now!!
Sorry.
Anybody that knows in the meantime, please state the correct party.
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smurfles Posted Aug 21, 2004
I wasn't saying that his wife must have known when she married him,i was saying that his wife must know now,and maybe the marriage is surviving the revelation.
I wouldn't condone the fact that he married her without admitting to her ,and himself.
I am sorry that you are in the process of a divorce,and that you have been deceived, for the future.
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- 1: abbi normal "Putting on the Ritz" with Dr Frankenstein (Aug 16, 2004)
- 2: pheloxi | is it time to wear a hat? | (Aug 16, 2004)
- 3: Researcher 185550 (Aug 16, 2004)
- 4: Ivan the Terribly Average (Aug 16, 2004)
- 5: pheloxi | is it time to wear a hat? | (Aug 16, 2004)
- 6: smurfles (Aug 16, 2004)
- 7: Smudger879n (Aug 16, 2004)
- 8: abbi normal "Putting on the Ritz" with Dr Frankenstein (Aug 16, 2004)
- 9: Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor (Aug 16, 2004)
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