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Gosho, is the odd record in a poster that you're referring to earlier Pillows & Prayers?

If so, I've still got my copy

"And if you'd like a band who went from Cherry Red to the big time, then there is no better example than Everything But The Girl."

Big time???

Everything But The Girl - the band named after Ben Watt's response to the question "Who or what will you sleep with to get into this band"B

Well, two top ten LPs and nearly two years spent in the singles charts might not be up to Oasis standards of the big time. But its not bad going

I don't remember what it was called GD, but I know that the A side had lots of regualr punk stuff on it - I know that The Leyton Buzzards had a song on there, whilst the B side was more your Robert Rental/Throbbing Gristle/Cabaret Voltaire kind of thing.

And Number Six - that reply of yours to my last post sailed right over my head

Ah, in that case it is not the same thing at all. Pillows & Prayers was full of whimsical songs from the likes of Tracey Thorn, Thomas Leer and Eyeless in Gaza etc.

Still very good, and retailed for the special promotional price of 99p

I thought you might be about to recommend it, Gosho

Thanks, GreyDesk and Master B - I've added the qualifier of 'in the UK' to the list of artists that made their name on Indies, and added a footnote about the Dead Kennedys. Interesting about EBTG, I'd never thought of them as an Indie act before - but if you don't mind, I reckon I'll leave them out as I've got to draw the line *somewhere*. I know they're much bigger than the DKs in terms of chart success, but in terms of Indie-legend-ness I'd give the vote to Jello Biafra's lot.

What d'you think?

Of the three boxes of records I have stashed in the shed, I can only get at one of them without pulling *everything* else out - which I only plan to do next time we move, but I did find another Cherry Red compilation called 'Hybrid Kids', and on the inner sleeve is some Cherry Red promo stuff including pics of of their first eight singles Cherry 1 - Cherry 8 (The Tights, Destroy All Monsters, The Runaways, etc), and their first four LPs, including... 'Business Unusual - The other record collection' (A Red 2)

It's a compilation of singles from other labels (The Leyton Buzzards for instance were on Small Wonder - I know, I have all their singles). From what I can make out (it's a very small picture), it has songs on there by The Vice Creams, Thomas Leer, The Outcasts, The Leyton Buzzards.

It also says at the bottom of the sleeve 'Cherry Red is an independent label exclusively distributed in the UK by Spartan Records.', and on the other side, are some listings for another label called Heartbeat which is licenced through Cherry Red (two singles by the Glaxo - not Gl*xo - Babies )

Wow! It's amazing what effect being old can have on the quality of one's record collection


And I'd disagree about EBTG not being indie-ish. They cetainly were in their early days.

OK, you've convinced me. In they go.

Right! Indie and major now non-capitalised (I think I changed all the ones I needed to) and I even added a link to Walthamstow.

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Woohoo! Thanks everyone... snakebite and black all round!

(Couple of extra credits have now been added...)

I'll forego the snakebite & black in favour of the more traditional

B

Now then, here's an ethical conundrum. I picked this entry when my name wasn't on it, but by name has been added to the list of Researchers after the event. Since Scouts aren't supposed to pick their own entries (and I assume that means collaborative entries such as this), I reckon I should remove my name and make sure it doesn't appear on the edited entry

Oh, and well done btw


Scout

Why not ask to have Flossie's name added instead?

Oh yeah - she's a real connoisseur of late seventies and early eighties music

That's what post 19 was all about! The way I see it, it's just plain wrong that if a Scout can be credited for small contributions made in a PR thread - and personally, I think *everyone* that suggests something in PR that the researcher submitting the entry wouldn't otherwise have been able to include - only at the price of making them unable to pick the entry. I mean, are there any Scouts out there vain enough to pick an entry just because a footnote, sentence or factoid that they suggested for inclusion made it in?

So I've started a new policy of not crediting any Scouts until the entry has been recommended - I've shot myself in the foot a few times by crediting the Scout(s) that were interested in the thread for small, but useful contributions: and thus making the only people interested in picking my entry AND having the power to do so unable to recommend it.

It's happened a couple of times the other way round as well, with Ebert's 'Pavement Etiquette' and Deckchair Funderlik's 'Live Fast, Die Young and Leave A Good-looking Corpse'.

Gosho, I think you're worth a credit for the Cheery Red / Rough Trade / Small Wonder bits alone... I figured that if your name was appended to the entry *after* you recommended it - and the PR thread shows you to have made a contribution that the researcher submitting the entry (me!) wouldn't otherwise have been able to include (or wouldn't have thought including) - then that's fair enough. I think I'm following the spirit of the law rather than the letter of it.

I have to agree with you, and I'd have been very pleased to have a credit on this one as it's a subject dear to my heart, but I've removed my name from the entry anyway to comply with letter of the law rather than the spirit just in case someone creates a stink about it in the future, what with you and me *both* being Scouts and all. I hope you understand

And just in case the Sub-ed hasn't yet been appointed and the new copy made... would you care to include legendary Liverpool indie label Zoo Records who gave us Teardrop Explodes and Echo and the Bunnymen?

As well as Big in Japan (bass player Holly Johnson, drummer Budgie, guitarist Ian Broudie)