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Oberon2001

Aletrt the Scouts Group and we'll move it tomorrow!

What's this? An ACE muscling in on Scout territory? I thought it took two *Scouts* to move an entry

Seconded

Didn't realise it was Scout territory I've just been following this entry's progression. It'll never happen again sir.
*sits in corner*
Oberon2001

See that it doesn't

And I promise not to ACE any new Researchers

We demand rigidly defined areas of of doubt and uncertainty, and overlapping of Volunteer duties

Shame. Buck was born just a couple of days before one Robert Allen Zimmerman.

For the record:
The first time I came across the author of this piece was when I was reviewing an article 'written' by him on John Leslie. I discovered after wasting time reading it that it had been plagiarised wholesale from the BBC News web site. When I posted my feelings of disgust with his behaviour to the thread, he gleefully replied that he'd do it again any time.

It appears to be his sole aim in life to get an article into PR which violates the house rules in some way. I am personally going to ignore anything he posts to PR in future, and I suggest that all my fellow Scouts do the same, as life is too short to deal politely with people like this.

FM

Regarding hte previous post by Felonious Monk. I would have to say that is the single-most pompous and offensive article I have read on h2g2. I was quite sure that attitudes like yours are the kind of nonsense this site was set up to oppose.

I don't know quite what proof you have regarding dates. Maybe my article has a some imperfections, I really don't know, that is why I put it in peer review in the first place. The sheer fact that I have a recording of his which I am listening to this very second tells me that everything you have all said is nonsense. I am sorry to be so abrupt, but the attitude expressed in the previous posts has been shocking and thoroughly exclusionary.

I repeat, yet again, finding information about him is very hard. His influence on the formative years of Dylan are clearly contentious. It may not be noted in biography, but it doesn't mean it didn't happen. It is comparable to the Kurt Cobain situation. Cobain expressed a love for many different influences during his life. Some are documented more than others. Not every book mentions the influence of Tad, Redd Kross, Janes Addiction, GG Allin etc etc on his career. It is still true.

I am though, deeply offended by the lack of respect with which my entry has been treated. it reminds me of an old addage about ignorance and contempt, but I daren't sink to the level of FM.

Rt. Rev. Lesley Gentle

For the record, my sources for the dates were http://www.hankjr.com and http://www.hankwilliams.com . The Hank Jr site lists a lot of the varied country and rock artists he's worked with, and makes much of the early start he made to his career, but mysteriously fails to mention Buck Stiltman at all.

Nirvana's influences may or may not be well-documented, but all the acts you mentioned either exist or have existed, and this can be proven by the use of a search engine. Type in 'Buck Stiltman' and nothing appears except your article.

There are certainly musical artists from past eras whose influence far outstrips their record sales: Leadbelly, Gram Parsons and Big Star, for instance. But all of them are lovingly documented on the Internet.

Buck isn't. At all. Funny, that.

Daren't sink to the level of FM? I think this says it all: http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/brunel/F106688?thread=229422. I remain, etc... FM

Ah Rt Rev Lesley Gentle, I challenge you to a duel to prove this entry is for real.
Please state your sources. I will then personally phone the British Library (and contact the American equivalent once I can find an e-mail or phone contact. If someone could give me one, much appreciated) to ask if these have ever been printed in the UK. Before you ask, they will show up as long as they've been printed in as least the past 100 years (and often a *lot* longer). I would like the sources to be laid out thus -
Title. Year. Publisher.
If your info was taken from a magazine please again state -
Title. Date (exact). Publisher.

Oberon2001

I wouldn't hold your breath...

Might as well give the Rev a chance...
Oberon2001

He's had plenty. Do we have to wait for a second UN resolution?

I work in a cd store in Austin, the music capital of Texas, and I have many excellent sources of information at my disposal who would know of Mr Stiltman if he existed, including my boss, several knowledgable customers, and a musical database which lists every album ever put onto cd and which is updated every month. I'll try to remember to do some reseach tomorrow, but then I have the next four days off

I have a copy of a copy on cassette. All my information is from a mangy old issue of Record Collector which I gave back with the tape to my mate when I copied the tape. As I have said before, I have found no other material in the past, I have been unable to find any other recordings.

Regarding Nirvana's influences, you can find them easily on the internet because they are RECENT BANDS. Just because what I say may be contentious doesn't make it untrue.

Regarding Felonious Monk, he clearly cannot take a joke, an article about John Leslie? Please. He probably doesn't like the fact that he was sucked in by it. Oh well. Everything I say must be lies then, because the boy cried wolf etc. It was a joke you wally. Lighten up and appreciate the fact that you don't know everything, open your eyes to the world and do some learning.

Yours

Rt.Rev. LG

Rev- in the writing workshop thread you said the following: "Anybody care to contribute? I have had immense difficulty finding out this limited information from old books in the British Library and from what my friend Ced (a huge fan knew)."

You have just said that all your information came from a "mangy old issue of Record Collector"

So which is it, I'm confused by this.

If it was the issue of record collector, perhaps you could borrow it again and tell us which issue.

If it was the british library perhaps you could tell us which books you used.

Oh, and Oberon- the US equivalent would prob'ly be the Library of Congress, I'll try and dig out some contact details for you.

oh, and Rev- the tape you borrowed from your friend- was your friend's copy an original?

The Libray of Congress website is http://www.loc.gov/

And the British library website is http://blpc.bl.uk/

And if the Rev is able to inform us of a Record Collector Issue number, then enquiries about that could be directed to:
http://www.recordcollectormag.com/

Well, our database has no record of a Buck Stiltman, our vendor's catalogue carries no Buck Stiltman albums, my boss - who is particularly knowledgeable about Americana, American roots music and roots rock, and who has been buying and selling used cds for almost 15 years doesn't know of him, and one of my co-workers who is quite possibly the biggest Gram Parsons fan in Austin also doesn't know of him.

I'll keep an open mind until I have proof positive one way or the other.