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Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor Started conversation Jun 23, 2012
Entry: Zamonia - tales from a lost continent - A87749888
Author: Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor - U1314679
An Entry about some books that I really like. As I saw that wiki doesn't have a good English article about it either I decided to write an Entry about them, even if I'm not sure how good the English translations are.
A87749888 - Zamonia - tales from a lost continent
Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor Posted Jun 26, 2012
Are there no comments at all?
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U168592 Posted Jun 26, 2012
On first read through I want to go and find these books, so well done
There are some areas that could do with a bit of a look at, I think you jump from the introduction into the description of the world, so perhaps a header there would help break up that.
I'm not sure of some of the phrasing, but I understand it's difficult to translate a translation of a translation...
I think I need to come back and read this with a critical head, rather than an enjoying the Entry head at another point.
I shall return.
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Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor Posted Jun 26, 2012
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Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor Posted Jul 24, 2012
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U168592 Posted Jul 25, 2012
Sorry, I've left this alone. I think there's various phrasing that needs a look at, but as far as style and content, I think it reads well and is a good not only introduction but neat synopsis for the books. It makes me want to read them, so if that's your goal, you have succeeded. there are some sections that perhaps could do with a snip here and there, but with a communicative sub editor I think this is pretty fine
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Jul 25, 2012
My daughter loved the Captain Bluebear book, but she's away at the moment, so I can't get her comments on this.
What do you mean by "definitely for adults"?
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Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor Posted Jul 25, 2012
Well, Bluebear is as I mentioned in the Entry a children's TV series and the books probably also look like children's books to some people because of all the pictures and such. But they are not children's books because children wouldn't understand all the allusions and some of the books can also be quite cruel. The language (at least in German) is also not really good to read for children. Bluebear is probably the most light-hearted of all of these books. I guess teenagers can read them tough, even if younger ones may not understand most of the hints.
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U168592 Posted Jul 25, 2012
My daughter is 10 and has been reading the Hunger Games series, I think of her reading these and enjoying them.
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Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor Posted Jul 25, 2012
I have never read them and have no idea what they are about.
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Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor Posted Jul 26, 2012
The Bluebear TV series appears in a TV show for children from about 4 years old, by the way. I stay with my opinion that the books have been written for adults.
When I was 12 I read LOTR for instance and although I really loved it I must honestly say that I didn't really understand it all until a few years later. I also read HHHGTTG at 13, I put it away after a few pages because I found it just stupid because I didn't understand it. I picked it up again 2 years later and loved it.
I stay with my opinion that the Zamonia books are written for an adult audience and *certainly* not for the target group of the TV series.
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Jul 26, 2012
From what I've seen of them, they're certainly not for young children. Books are often miscategorised, both in bookshops and by the publishers.
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Lanzababy - Guide Editor Posted Jul 26, 2012
I would support your right to give this recommendation, about the target audience for the books, in this Entry Tavaron. You are the author of this piece and are the one who has read all the books.
Where you say
Although there is also a Captain Bluebear children's TV series on German TV since 1988, the book is definitely written for adults.
I think you could expand a little, saying for instance that there are adult themes in the book which are not included in the TV series.
I'm also wishing that I could read these, they really sound intriguing.
A few suggestions:
"Long time ago Zamonia" - it is more colloquial in English to use the term
"Long, long ago in Zamonia"
Some day he has had enough of it and flees with a self-made float.
- One day he has enough of it....
...rescue some Wolpertinger5 puppies from a giant who just sits down on their owner's house.
I think you mean 'simply' rather than just - "just' in most cases means 'only' or 'just now'
so, you could construct the sentence like
..rescue some Wolpertinger5 puppies from a giant who'd simply sat down on their owner's house.
Encyclopaedia of unexplained Wonders, Beings and Phenomenons of Zamonia and its Vicinity
earlier you have this in single quotes, but without the appropriate capitalisation, as you've correctly used the second time.
I am in two minds as to whether both mentions should be italicised, as it is a book title - but as it is an imaginary book, within another book - I think I would prefer the single quotes.
master lier - typo [liar]
but after the competition happens the strongest earthquake in the history of the city.
but after the competition ends the strongest earthquake in the history of the city occurs.
Sorry, have run out of time to continue with checking for more queries. If anyone can continue, I have got to the end of the Bluebear section. If not, I'll try to return later.
Lanza
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Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor Posted Jul 26, 2012
Thanks, I will expand the section about the age recommendation.
The thing with the giant is a bit more tricky. It is a very huge giant, several kilometers tall. As he is so big he is also very slow (that's the reasoning in the book) and so they manage to save the Wolpertingers during the time that he giant needs to lower his bottom on the house.
I have corrected all the other things.
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Lanzababy - Guide Editor Posted Jul 26, 2012
how about
....rescue some Wolpertinger5 puppies during the time that an enormous giant needs to lower his bottom on the house.
While I love the synopsis of each book, I don't think you need to elaborate too much on the details - you want to leave some surprises to the readers. Just give enough to entice them to read.
and was the 5 in the first mention a typo? I thought it was meant, as part of the mysterious name.
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Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor Posted Jul 26, 2012
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Lanzababy - Guide Editor Posted Jul 26, 2012
Tav, I am doing about 5 things at once, do excuse me! I must concentrate on one at a time. I am very easily confused.
...as you were...
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Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor Posted Jul 26, 2012
ok
By the way, I would not have mentioned the Wolpertingers at all if this wouldn't be the connection to Rumo.
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Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor Posted Aug 12, 2012
I've made a few minor changes and reworded the thing about the age of readers.
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- 3: U168592 (Jun 26, 2012)
- 4: Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor (Jun 26, 2012)
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