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clzoomer- a bit woobly Started conversation Nov 12, 2002
I like it. I was divorced and remarried and can feel it. You now know what a healer time is. Surrender to it.
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a girl called Ben Posted Nov 12, 2002
Yes. That one was a real-humdinger to go through.
As I have said elsewhere, when I finally write a poem on a subject I cannot feel the emotion again in the same way. Which is fine when the poems record pain, but I have just written one which records pleasure. I really hope I haven't damned that to hell in a handcart.
Thanks for taking the time to read this, and for taking the time to write about it.
B
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clzoomer- a bit woobly Posted Nov 12, 2002
Looking at your co-submission and then your poems I am curious. How long of a period was between them. I imagine it was at least a year or so, no?
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a girl called Ben Posted Nov 12, 2002
Most of the poems are dated with the dates when they were written, and the most recent have all been posted within a few days or weeks at the most.
The marriage took a long time to die, and in fact I got a telephone call from the former Mr Ben this evening.
B
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clzoomer- a bit woobly Posted Nov 12, 2002
I know he broke it off and you may still have some feelings but he seems to me to be a bit of a w****r. Not my place to say but just a feeling I have.
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a girl called Ben Posted Nov 12, 2002
Yep. Sums him up pretty well. A nice w****r, but a w****r nonetheless.
But hey - being married to me ain't exactly easy! (And I may be a perfect mistress, but that doesn't make keeping me that way easy either!)
B
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clzoomer- a bit woobly Posted Nov 12, 2002
"keeping me that way"
Ahhh..which way?
By the way I have a hair salon (what a bizarre title for a hair cut joint) a block away from me called "Miss Tresses"
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a girl called Ben Posted Nov 12, 2002
Well, as Rainbow and I indicated, the wives got far more out of our affairs than we ever did. So what I meant was 'keeping me sweet' more than anything else.
Hoovooloo suggested that Rainbbow and I regard men as easily manipulated buffoons, (though he may still be avoiding the Mr Perfect thread), but I don't think like that. I scare a lot of men, because I have a bad habit of calling it as I see it. But on the other hand I am fun. I like to be amused.
B
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clzoomer- a bit woobly Posted Nov 12, 2002
Well some men are "easily manipulated buffoons" and most of us are occasionally. So are some women but I find fewer than men. Personally part of my humour is the buffoon, although I like to think I can be as Witty as Wilde now and then. Men like to think we aren't able to be manipulated of course but now and then I think we like it.
Must be off to my real job, I'll check the other threads and hopefully join in this very entertaining conversation later.
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a girl called Ben Posted Nov 12, 2002
I have enjoyed the ping pong too. Have a good day, and see you here and elsewhere.
B
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clzoomer- a bit woobly Posted Nov 13, 2002
Jiggedy jig (home again).
Picking up the thread I thought I might mention my ex. I married too young due to pregnancy and ended up with someone I couldn't make happy. Our lives were completely opposite and it took many years to find that out. I found a mistress and then married her after a bitter divorce. And thus ends today's epidsode of cl's soap opera.
So you see sometimes your situation turns into something else now and then. *Getting out before it goes bad* can mean more than one thing I believe. Now the question(s)- what if I feel like another affair sometime soon? If it doesn't hurt anyone does it reflect on my personality and self?
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a girl called Ben Posted Nov 13, 2002
>What if I feel like another affair sometime soon?
>If it doesn't hurt anyone does it reflect on my personality and self?
Well, I have to admit that the underlying cynicism of the piece assumes that the affairs are conducted in such a way to avoid hurt to the wives. It is, in my view, the husband's responsibility to make sure that the wife is not hurt. Hence the 'dont be a taxi' comment. I have been fortunate so far in that the men that I have had affairs with have all been committed to their wives.
The other kind of affair, the kind of affair which leads on to Wife 1.0 being replaced by Wife 2.0, or Wife 2.0 being replaced by Wife 3.0 is nasty and vicious. I know too many wonderful women whose husbands went off with floozies, and seen the devestation and pain that causes, for me to think that that is OK.
I am the perfect mistress because I am safe.
B
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a girl called Ben Posted Nov 13, 2002
Glad to hear it was hypothetical!
One of the compelling things about the whole experience, and about writing about the whole experience, is the strands of double and triple standards, the blindspots and the no-go areas I find in myself.
Oh, and the sex.
B
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clzoomer- a bit woobly Posted Nov 13, 2002
The dimly lit restaurants, the drives to meadows in the Summer, getting to know the room mate, the dimly lit...sex? OK, question. Lights on, off, dimmed, or candles?
Seriously though your piece was very thoughtfully written. How did the two of you come to the idea? Did it take long?
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a girl called Ben Posted Nov 13, 2002
On, off, dimmed, candles - why only choose one option here? Variety is the spice of life.
Me, I like to be able to see what I am doing and who I am doing it with, but in the dark has its charms too.
How did we come up with it? The usual girl-talk...
Rainbow and I are friends and we meet fairly often. We met through the site, and at one time we lived only 1/4 of a mile apart.
Magnolia, whose words of wisdom have since been included, I count as a dear friend, though I have not yet met her in real life. She and I spent hours last night on - well - the usual girl-talk.
I think one of the things which is compelling and possibly intimidating about the piece is that it is very very female/feminine in its outlook, and that it says things which girls normally only say to each other.
I am finding the reactions, and lack of them, interesting.
B
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clzoomer- a bit woobly Posted Nov 14, 2002
That's another reason I'm part of H2G2 as per your thread. I see the kind of friendships you describe happening again and again. I wonder if it is a kind of personality that was drawn the the original stories. We all share a common joke and dream. I wonder if DNA knew that before he passed. Did he visit here then? I bet he would have loved your stuff.
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a girl called Ben Posted Nov 14, 2002
U42
He founded the site after all. The thought of DNA having an opinion about my stuff makes my head whirl. Though I am more of a Pratchett fan myself.
I think it is something about the apparent intimacy of these sorts of conversations. Lets face it, we would be unlikely to have got as far as quickly if we had met in a bar.
Anyway, my eyeballs will drop out if I stay awake much longer.
All the best
B
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