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Peer Review: A781139 - The James Bond Films - 1962-1967
Danny B Started conversation Aug 14, 2002
Entry: The James Bond Films - 1962-1967 - A781139
Author: Danny B. [Still harping on about the Musicians' Guild (U150368)] - U182633
This is the first part of a four-part series. I was going to submit it as one Entry and let the subeditor worry about splitting it but the finished product would have been *huge*, so I've split it myself.
There was also the possiblity of turning it into a University project, but there are already a number of excellent James Bond entries in the Guide, so I've simply kept it as a series of linked articles.
The rest will follow as and when they're finished...
A781139 - The James Bond Films - 1962-1967
Giford Posted Aug 14, 2002
Good so far.
One quibble:
"With the help of his allies, Quarrel - John Kitzmiller in something of a groundbreaking role as a black man who was not only one of the good guys, but brave and loyal with it - and Honey Rider (Andress), who makes a living collecting and selling valuable sea shells, Bond must discover who is behind the plot and stop it, as the Americans are soon to attempt to put a rocket in orbit of the moon." - erk! Can you split this up a bit? Or at least make the punctuation consistent (both actors in brackets or after dashes, not a mixture).
More as I read the other articles ...
Gif
A781139 - The James Bond Films - 1962-1967
Danny B Posted Aug 14, 2002
'Erk' indeed
How about:
"Bond must discover who is behind the plot and stop it, as the Americans are soon to attempt to put a rocket in orbit of the moon. In Jamaica, Bond acquires two allies: Quarrel (John Kitzmiller) - something of a groundbreaking role as a black man who was not only one of the good guys, but brave and loyal with it - and Honey Rider (Andress), who makes a living collecting and selling valuable sea shells."
A781139 - The James Bond Films - 1962-1967
Smij - Formerly Jimster Posted Aug 25, 2002
Hi Danny,
I'm going to start wading my way through all these entries, so bear with me. This is fantastic stuff by the way.
1. The section 'One False Start' has the following para: 'By this time Broccoli and Saltzman had purchased the rights to ... Kevin McLory's name pops up several times throughout the history of the Bond films.'
I think this would be better mentioned at the beginning of the Thunderball section - it's too much info early on when all you really need to mention here is that McLory worked on an unused script.
2. Under Dr No, you write: '...it was difficult to see anyone else playing the role, a problem that the producers would eventually face.'
How about 'a problem that would come back to haunt the producers later on.'
3. From Russia With Love
'Again, the film remains close to the original, although in the film the villains are working for SPECTRE, rather than for Soviet intelligence's SMERSH5 organization.'
A little confusing. Maybe 'although, as before, SMERSH5, the villainous organisation from the novels, was swapped for SPECTRE.'
You go on to describe how the film begins, though to be accurate, the film begins with a marvellous double bluff as Bond is seen to be killed only for him to be revealled to be a look-alike in the villains' training operation. Might be too much to add in though
'The film also sees the first appearance of SPECTRE leader Ernst Stavro Blofeld, who is never seen and is ...'
Again, confusing. How about 'The film also introduces SPECTRE leader Ernst Stavro Blofeld, though his face is not seen and he is...
4. You Only Live Twice
Might be worth mentioning that YOLT was only decided on as the next picture very late on - originally the next one was intended to be OHMSS (the novel of YOLT follows on from the ending of OHMSS, with Bond avenging the death of his wife - basically the sequence that opens Diamonds are Forever)
5. James Bond Will return in...
Just a stylistic thing, the bullet points could be written as if continuing the header, so they would read:
The second part of this entry, which looks at the story of the James Bond films from 1969 to 1979.
The third part, which covers the Bond story from 1981 to 1992.
... and the fourth part, which takes the story from 1994 ...
Superb, Danny. Off to have a look at the next one...
Jimster
A781139 - The James Bond Films - 1962-1967
Jimi X Posted Aug 26, 2002
I used to know nothing about Bond except that I always watch the films when they're on TV.
Now I probably know *too* much!
Great entry, plenty of depth, interesting behind-the-scenes stuff.
Wow!
- Jimi X
A781139 - The James Bond Films - 1962-1967
Danny B Posted Aug 27, 2002
Wow, Jimster, you really *have* read it all!
Anyway, I've put in the comments on Part I. On to Part II...
And Jimi - sorry about the information overload
Danny B.
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Orcus Posted Sep 3, 2002
Congratulations. A very fine read. I had much pleasure reading all these yesterday. I'm glad you thought The Spy Who Loved me was one of the tops as it is one of my fave Bond Films too.
Congrats on the others too. You might find they've been picked by some mysterious scouty type people too
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Danny B Posted Sep 3, 2002
Orcus!
I hope you haven't used up all your picks on these articles - I knew there was another argument for writing it all as one gigantic Entry
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Orcus Posted Sep 3, 2002
' hope you haven't used up all your picks on these articles '
Er... well...couldn't very well have one picked and not the others now could we
Anyway, I was struggling to find much else I liked this time and there are four so I've had to leave one for someone else...
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Peer Review: A781139 - The James Bond Films - 1962-1967
- 1: Danny B (Aug 14, 2002)
- 2: Giford (Aug 14, 2002)
- 3: Danny B (Aug 14, 2002)
- 4: Smij - Formerly Jimster (Aug 25, 2002)
- 5: Jimi X (Aug 26, 2002)
- 6: Danny B (Aug 27, 2002)
- 7: Orcus (Sep 2, 2002)
- 8: Danny B (Sep 2, 2002)
- 9: h2g2 auto-messages (Sep 3, 2002)
- 10: Orcus (Sep 3, 2002)
- 11: Orcus (Sep 3, 2002)
- 12: Danny B (Sep 3, 2002)
- 13: Orcus (Sep 3, 2002)
- 14: Danny B (Sep 3, 2002)
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