h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

So then, what's everyone elses progress on their repsective entries?

When can we get this project up and running and on the fron tpage do you think? What sort of time are we looking at?



Ste no,

Personally, I'm looking at doing some work on this this weekend. Probably best to see where we are after that - I want to write a rebuttal of Josh's Creationism article, something about the Creationism paradigm, and a piece about the tension between the scientific and religious mindset. So that should be three from me, plus and overarching introduction entry with links to everything and explanations of what and why. So four. Or more. Possibly. Anyway. That's my timescale. Anyone else?

H.

If you want I could try to look into writing an Entry on believing in both evolution and creation.

spook

Are we talking about believing literally in genesis and evolution at once? Or more the non-fundamentalist view?

Thanks for posting

Ste

Literally believing in both at once.

spook

Oh! really? I didn't think that was possible!

Yeah, I'd say go for it. We never expected this viewpoint. I'd make sure with Hoovooloo first, it's his pet project afterall. Even though he doesn't seem to be about much recently (*hint*)

So then, how does one believe in a literal interpretation of genesis and evolution at the same time? I'm fascinated.



Ste

It's mainly about how you view Genesis. The world was made in 6 days, but we don't know how long each day was, and genesis would have been written for people in olden days to understand, labelling each time period as a day. There are lots of things, really. When I've written the entry I'll give you the link.

spook

Before you get writing, see if anything conflicts with an entry myself and my father-in-law (a priest) is writing.

It is in detailed note form at the moment at A699573 - "Creationism - The Mainstream Christian Viewpoint"

Tell me what you think

Ste

It looks like a good entry. The only way it might conflict is where it says Creationism and Evolutionism are incompatible. However, the entry is the mainstream Christian View, my Christian view is nowhere near mainstream.

spook

The title is very non-permanent, I'm not sure i like the current one.

You'll have to check with Hoovooloo on whether he wants to include such an entry first, but I personally would like to see it included.



Ste

Remember, my entry says: "The doctrine of creation and the scientific theory of creation are not incompatible but creationism and evolutionism are."

I personally think that creationism and evolutionism are compatible, depending on how you view each one.

spook

Go on then, give me a quick summary

Please

Ste

My personal view is that Creationism and Evolutionism aren't opposites, but go hand in hand. Science is not opposite to God, but God created Science, and Science was God's tool in creating the universe. God created the tool, then used the tool to create the universe. Evolution has been proved impossible by Charles Darwin himself, as he said that if two things needed to evolve at the same time for the body to survive, then his theory would be incorrect. However, it is not impossible that God could control the path of evolution, and cause these things to evolve simultaneously. I also believe that God used Science and let there be Scientific explanations to things for a reason. That reason is that if the creation of universe and people was obviously the cause of a God, then people would have prove to believe in God, while God says that the only way to him is Faith.

That is a shortish summary of my believes on this subject (more or less).

spook

Interesting , thanks.

One thing, how did Darwin disprove evolution? I don't quite understand that part...

Ste

It's something he said about evolution. he said that if there was a case where 2 things would have to evolve simultaneous for us to survive, like parts of the blood, then his theory of evolution would be incorrect. Now, I think we know of about 17 cases of this in the body of this, but there maybe be more.

spook

I wouldn't be confident on saying that evolution is disproved because of a statement made 150 years ago, when evolution was not that well understood. After all, Darwin only came up with natural selection, he didn't even know genes existed. You might want to something more robust than this for an entry. Also, I'm not sure what context that statement was said in. Do you perhaps have a link so I could study it in further depth. You've piqued my interest, I've never heard this before about Darwin .

I've actually written an entry on evolution for this project: A673319 The Theory of Evolution. I've tried to explain evolution to the layman, it's quite long though.



Ste

Prctically, what I know about evolution is what was told to me by a Christian Scientist Friend of mine. When I write the entry, I will put in wuite a bit of research into these things.

spook

What, like a scientist whose a Christian, or a Christian Scientist (two different things)? .

I'm a biologist, and I've studied evolution a lot. I'm always welcoming when it comes to new perspectives on the subject.

Ste

A Christian who used to be a Science Teacher, but is now going to Moorlands Bible College.

spook