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Like I said, if it's going to happen without any outside 'help', then why worry? No need to assume that only the pagans and druids will save the world. In the meantime, let's not assume that it *will* happen, and think about alternatives.

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Yes, I saw the "", so I'll ask again: are you serious when you say "no"?



You sound like the USA denying global warming, or Big Tobacco denying links to lung cancer. I do not propose the One and Only Solution. Sadly, I am proposing the next best (worst actually) thing to the Final Solution. Somehow, there must be less of us. A lot less, I believe.

When the worst case involves having no water to drink, or even no air to breathe, some pretty radical thinking is in order, wouldn't you say?

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Hi Ed

I love it when you get out of your depth but keep on splashing away merrily

"If you start with Druidic mumbo-jumbo, with its fantasies of a non-existent rural Celtic golden age..."

Modern druidry is a reflection of what once was and as such holds scholarship in high regard. As a result you will find that very few, if any, hold to any belief in a "rural Celtic golden age...". Indeed the very concept of 'Celtic' is under considerable doubt. As you no doubt know the concept of 'Celt/Celtic' was coined in the early 19th century by a philologist, and became an established historical theory despite there being little physical evidence for such a pan-european racial/cultural grouping. It is now being widely questioned and shown to be weak if not completely ridiculous.

British druids do work with spirits and gods that have goidelic and gaelic names and mythological roots. This is because these spirits and gods are native to our isles. It is of no matter what we choose to call them, to us they are here and willing to work with us.

OK you can stop rolling your eyes now, back to the point in hand.

The 5% figure and 200 year timescale were indeed plucked from the air as an example. A fine example, but one nonetheless. It seems entirely likely to me that us Druids will have do nothing to achieve it though as humanity seems more than capable of reducing itself to that level through conflict and its own awful cleverness.

I would rather that we achieved such a reduction in population through peaceful means. As one other said the birthrate in the 'developed' world is falling rapidly. As we include other nations in this club perhaps they shall follow suit without draconian social legislation.

You have chosen to misunderstand me on another issue too. I do not undervalue humanity or wish it gone, I have children too. As I have said again and again druids hold all life to be sacred, and that includes homo sapiens.

Blessings,
Matholwch /|\

I knew I shouldn't have gotten into this.

I used a because of the way you asked the question -

- you used one, remember?

You made it into a statement that is obviously not what I meant, and you used a winkeye. I assumed we were having a light-hearted debate here, hence the winkeye, but I assure you, of course I don't think that "human rights should prevail over human survival"


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I am not saying that the world is not going to run out of natural resources, I'm not an idiot. I've been trying to be neutral here actually. The comment that drew me into this at first was that it wouldn't be the end of the world if all humans died

Name:
Cory Hughart (Nonexistent_One)

Chair title:
High Priest of Everything

Any beliefs you'd like to list so we can make fun- er... discuss them:
I believe that the chair I'm sitting in will hold my weight, that all forms of religious faith are delusions, and that digital watches were a pretty neat idea.
Oh, and I like cheese. And pie. Er, I *believe* that I like cheese and pie. But not together. Cheese pie is not my favorite. Especially cottage cheese pie. I believe that I don't like that at all.

Err... is this in the right place...?

The right place for what?
For... occasionally very enlightening debate, some fine minds discussing stuff, usually free of the dogmatic-poor-me-crap that clogs up other threads?

Sometimes

Oh, Hi, by the way!

And welcome.

Maybe no-one wants to look daft, welcoming a non-existent person to our lair!

...

Welcome anyway!

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<...all forms of religious faith are delusions>

Hey Ed! Our new member is one of yours! You'll like Ed - Edward the Bonobo, if you don't already know him?



Sacrilege!!!

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P-C, you taking the p**s, given I made 3 posts?

Welcome, Nonexistent one. May the Flying Spaghetti Monster touch you with His Noodly Appendage (http://www.venganza.org/)

Just beware of those pesky Druids. And Pantheists.

Thanks for the welcome, everyone. I've been looking for a good online community of free-thought for a long time. I've been to places like iidb.com (Internet Infidels' Discussion Board) and Philosophyforums.com, but no one seems to have a sense of humor there. I figured at a site based on the Hitchhiker's Guide I'd find plenty of intellectual wit and humor.

I have to admit that I'm a closet atheist. My parents are still so naive to my true opinions that it's almost worth the pretending just for the intellectual satisfaction of knowing the part so well as to fool the audience. My parents are Catholic, I was raised Catholic, and I go to a Catholic high school. It pretty much sucks. Religion is all over me like a two-tongued prostitute.

Thankfully, I have one friend at school who is an atheist. What's funnier is that she "became" one (gradually) through dialogue with me. She was a firm believer in Catholicism, and admittedly the most open-minded Catholic I had ever met. Now she's my best friend and an atheist to boot.

Anyway, what I'm trying to say is this; Thanks for the welcome.

~Nonexistent One

And I made two? Yes. I guess that makes us both daft. Can you live with it if I can?

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I'll cope.

What were we talking about anyway?

Being raised Catholic is a common problem, and not as life-warping as some would have you believe. Because I had to convince my Mum I knew what I was doing when I walked away from the Catholic church, leaving my soul and entitlement to Paradise behind, I had to think about religion. Quite hard. This turned into a lifelong interest in religion and philosophy, and for that I thank the Catholic church.

But that was a long time ago for me, while you're still in the thick of it. Don't despair, nonexistent one, you won't necessarily turn out like Ed or Pedro (raving atheists), Math (raving druid) or myself (raving pantheist).

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About how believers do more practical charity work than non-believers? Oh, and Ed was snarling at believers in general, and druids in particular. He's afraid they really will save the planet, and get all the credit.

But then there was that thing in the papers the other day about how religion is the source of all evil and nastiness and so forth.

Swings and roundabouts!

But now we have a new member to torment, er, chat with, so what do we *want* to talk about? Nonexistent One: any thoughts?

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Come out of the closet!

Even the religions that are fluffier than Catholocism are all p--h. There's no baby in the bathwater.