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Mu Beta Posted May 14, 2005
I'm still not convinced Billie Piper can act. The chap playing her father was excellent, though.
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Traveller in Time Reporting Bugs -o-o- Broken the chain of Pliny -o-o- Hired Posted May 14, 2005
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KB Posted May 14, 2005
It wasn't bad - but I thought the resolution was a bit too neat - her dad runs into the path of the car and the time parasites vanish. It seemed a little like it was just written in because the length was running on and they wanted to wind it up!
I thought her dad bought the story a little bit too easily too.
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KB Posted May 14, 2005
I'm partly with you on that Master B - but I think she suits the role quite well.
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Bagpuss Posted May 14, 2005
I didn't see anything wrong with Billie's acting, B. You're right that Rose's dad was played superbly, though.
A good episode, I thought. Paul Cornell seems to have a thing about churches, but this was a good excuse for it being a sanctuary. I'm left wondering what everyone remembers as having happened - Rose I think remembers everything we saw, but what about the people in the church? The people who died? The Doctor? My mind's boggling.
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Alfster Posted May 14, 2005
Billy Piper was excellent in it. What the hell wrong was wrong with her acting.
The resolution had to be just that the dad had to die. For a time I thought with the new bad Dr that the Dr would have killed Roses dad to sort out the time line - now *that* would have been an ending.
Did not see the BBW reference - please tell...
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KB Posted May 14, 2005
I'd say the Doctor would, being a Time Lord and all. Not the people in the church though - you could tell by the way her mother was talking to the young Rose at the end that she knew nothing about what had happened.
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Bagpuss Posted May 14, 2005
King_Bomba, the ending was a little quick, but didn't seem plucked out of the air to me. I saw it coming a bit, though.
When you're being attacked by gargoyles, perhaps the idea that your daughter has travelled back in time doesn't seem so crazy. I thought it was well done the way he worked it all out, rather than being told. There could have been a lot of blustering about "but that's crazy", which was thankfully avoided.
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Reefgirl (Brunel Baby) Posted May 14, 2005
*Sniff*
'Scuse me
This was the best one yet
I didn't see the BBW referance
Loved little Mickey in his suit
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Bagpuss Posted May 14, 2005
Oh, and I expect the Doctor knows something happened, but can he really recall a timeline in which he died?
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Terran Posted May 14, 2005
Yeah I didn't see anything wrong with her acting at all. In fact some times I think shes acted better than Christopher Eccleston, and I rate him very highly as an actor. I do think some people struggle to see her as an actress, because she was a pop star.
Great episode though. Its between this one and Dalek so far as to which one is my favourite so far. Great stuff, keep it up lads.
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Reefgirl (Brunel Baby) Posted May 14, 2005
Ok a few useless facts, My birthday is September 15th just like Pete Tyler and I was 19 in 1987 the same age as Rose is
Looking forward to next weeks, it looks really good from what I can see
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YalsonKSA - "I'm glad birthdays don't come round regularly, as I'm not sure I could do that too often." Posted May 14, 2005
I've been very impressed by the new 'Dr Who's so far. Today's one was good, but not as good as 'Dalek', which I thought was rather strange but very, very funny.
'Doctor? THE Doctor?' As if things couldn't get worse. I'm stuck in this basement, I'm being tortured, people are trying to break through my battle armour and just when things couldn't get any worse..... HE turns up.
And the bit where the Dalek tried to shoot the Doctor, but couldn't, was hilarious. It seemed like it looked down at its gun in a way that almost made it look embarrassed.
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Mrs Zen Posted May 14, 2005
I liked the Mickey reference, actually, and yes - I think that Billie Piper can act, and act well.
My gripes with the show are with the logic-timeline-paradox-anomoly stuff. You have to be very careful to pull it off and though I was hissing and spitting through most of the show (when I wasn't sniffing, dammit) I have to grudgingly admit they pulled it off at the end...
But...
What's this stuff about the Tardis disappearing from it's own insides and reappearing again in the Church?
And why were the bat-things removing all the people, but so obviously failing to get to Rose's Dad?
Ach.... it irritated me.
The Bad Wolf reference? When Rose and the Doctor landed in 1987 they walked past some posters say something like "No Third Term for Thatcher" (cool reference to our most recent election, given the Massive Weapons of Destruction in Episode 2), and a couple of posters advertising (I think) a band called Eclipse, one of which had Bad Wolf scrawled on it.
You could actually see this twice, because of Rose and the Doctor landing twice.
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mazie (returning soon...) Posted May 14, 2005
oooOOOooo reefgirl spooky
i think billie is a great actress, people are being a bit tough on her
how dodgy was the doctors green jumper though no wonder he keeps the jacket on
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Reefgirl (Brunel Baby) Posted May 14, 2005
I think Billie's acting has been faultless, I think she's getting an un-nessesarily hard time because of her marriage to the truly awful (IMHO) Chris Evans
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pixel Posted May 14, 2005
I thought this was pretty well done ~ the paradox thing is hard to pull off but they did it with style.
Billie is turning out to be much better than i expected and was good in this ep though like others i thought her dad was great.
I did figure out the ending from the first time the car went round but lets face it there weren't really any other ways to tidy it up.
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mazie (returning soon...) Posted May 14, 2005
i think we were meant to figure out how it was going to end - it made it all the sadder knowing what had to happen
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YalsonKSA - "I'm glad birthdays don't come round regularly, as I'm not sure I could do that too often." Posted May 14, 2005
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- 1621: Mu Beta (May 14, 2005)
- 1622: Traveller in Time Reporting Bugs -o-o- Broken the chain of Pliny -o-o- Hired (May 14, 2005)
- 1623: KB (May 14, 2005)
- 1624: KB (May 14, 2005)
- 1625: michael salkeld (May 14, 2005)
- 1626: Bagpuss (May 14, 2005)
- 1627: Alfster (May 14, 2005)
- 1628: KB (May 14, 2005)
- 1629: Bagpuss (May 14, 2005)
- 1630: Reefgirl (Brunel Baby) (May 14, 2005)
- 1631: Bagpuss (May 14, 2005)
- 1632: Terran (May 14, 2005)
- 1633: Reefgirl (Brunel Baby) (May 14, 2005)
- 1634: YalsonKSA - "I'm glad birthdays don't come round regularly, as I'm not sure I could do that too often." (May 14, 2005)
- 1635: Mrs Zen (May 14, 2005)
- 1636: mazie (returning soon...) (May 14, 2005)
- 1637: Reefgirl (Brunel Baby) (May 14, 2005)
- 1638: pixel (May 14, 2005)
- 1639: mazie (returning soon...) (May 14, 2005)
- 1640: YalsonKSA - "I'm glad birthdays don't come round regularly, as I'm not sure I could do that too often." (May 14, 2005)
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