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Here is my first entry to correct the terrible injust done to Grimsby.. There is more to it then fish... I just can't think of anything else

PJD

Here's the link:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/A635609

It appears that you haven't written anything - literally! The Entry is empty! Erm, could you re-submit it so we could have something to review?

Caper Plip

h2g 2, Grimsby Town 0!

My beloved Bradford boys play Grimsby on Saturday. I hope this is an omen!

(Straightens face)

Er, this is one for the Sin Bin, I think. Any seconders?

I second that.

I was looking forward to an informative article about when the fish started to appear on the stands at Grimsby. And was very let down this morning.

Push this into the sin bin and lets get down to the articles that demand some of our time here.

*removes ACE cloak*


"Grimbsy Town and Fish"

How unfortunate that you couldn't even spell the name of the town right.
There are people who live and work in Grimsby, you know.
Do you know we are one of the luckiest towns in the country for lottery winners?
Sorry Ormy, but you will have to travel to my home town of Cleethorpes to watch your team play, as Grimsby Town are one of those rare teams who "never" play at home.

Well now you've had your laughs, I hope this article will be deleted, and I will write my own entry on Grimsby when I have completed my entry on Cleethorpes.
Certainly remove it from Peer Review.

Fish - specifically "Harry the Haddock" first appeared (to my knowledge) during the glorious Autoglass Trophy campaign of about 4 years ago.

Worryingly GTFC are showing a decent form these days so you may see Harry back again any day now

Hey, chill out folks, there is an article there, check out http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/test635609 if you don't believe me and it doesn't slag off the place.

It *is* a little short thought to do the place justice.

I think it needs changing to *text only* rather than *GuideML* for us to read it without fiddling about.

A more extended entry is definitely needed though

Orcus

I see it!

How did it get on to a testing page?

Nice article, I like it. It could be longer but I like it as it is too. I've been to Grimsby railway station in the distant past - on the way to Saltfleetby. That brings back memories.

I think it's on a testing page because the author has converted the document to GuideML without putting and of the correct tags in to enable us to see it.

Oops. Sorry for all the confusion regarding the submission. Not only did I make the mistake of not posting the link, but I also messed up the posting of the article as well. I can only say, "it was my first."

It was nice to see that everyone didn't treat me any differently as a result of being my first post.

Anyway, I take all comments on board and will rewrite the piece appropiately. It was intended to be about how everyone links Grimsby with fish and how it should be remembered as such a place.

It has nothing to do with Grimsby Town FC. I did think about including Harry but it was a short lived thing and didn't fit in.

I will lenghten it to include more about the town and also about the present Grimsby. Oh and by the way I grew up in Cleethorpes as well. I felt the piece in the guide doesn't do Grimsby justice, maybe I should change the title to "Fish and a 'Plaice' called Grimsby Town"

(Sorry couldn't resist the joke.)

Here is the link to the rewritten version. I thougt it would be better to delete the old and start again with a new number hence the difference.

I look forward to hearing more comments and the article

http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/A638804

I like it - glad you weren't put off by attempts to relegate you to the sin bin! (Maybe more relevant to Grimsby Town FC than you.)

I'm not not quite clear about why the Docks Tower sums the town up. Do you mean as a landmark, or simply its connections to fish, docks and water?

Put me down I come back, just like Grimsby Town FC (ok well not like them.)

You did get it right I was going for the water, fish and as a landmark. Any suggestion how to sum that up better

PJD

Something to read!
Glad I didn't "unsubscribe" now.

'If there is one world that sums up Grimsby is it fish. Set in the North East of England in North Lincolnshire, Grimsby whole history and culture is based around the sea. Named after a Viking who was reported to have saved a child from drowning, the town of Grim really started to grow with the introduction of the railways'

If there is one WORD that sums up Grimsby is it fish. Set in the North East of England in North EAST Lincolnshire, Grimsby {plural?} whole history and culture is based around the sea. Named after a Viking who was reported to have saved a child from drowning, the town of Grim really started to grow with the introduction of the railways
(paragraph ending requires punctuation).

'The railways enable the lifeblood of the town to be transported across the country. It quickly grew from being a small dock to become (becoming?) part of the largest fleet of trawlers in the UK. The fish that it produced were shipped all round the country and even today many merchants and restaurants proudly proclaim that the fish they sever {typo: serve} is from Grimsby.'

'Meggies (the term for people from Grimsby) have a very close relationship with Cleethorpes. Both exist because of the other. Cleethorpes grew because of the railway lines that were built to transport the fish. Cleethorpes in turn gave a home to Grimsby Town Football Club.'
Sorry but Meggies are natives of Cleethorpes.
People born in Grimsby are called Grimbarians.

'While not the most beautiful place in the world Grimsby has a rich history and continues to maintain it’s (typo: its) heritage. The only true tourist item in Grimsby is the National Fishing Heritage Centre. Although this is designed mainly for children, it does give a strong vision, and in some places smell, into the past of Grimsby. It also quiet (typo: quite) rightly records the almost forgotten history of the trawlers activities in the Second World War, when huge numbers of fishermen lost their lives.'

'There is more to Grimsby then (typo: than) just fish, (new sentence here?) while today Grimsby is still a major fishing port, it is nowhere near as big as in the past. The town still depends on its docks and it’s links with the Humber Estuary. It now imports and exports large numbers of cars, vans and even caravans. It also has very strong Industrial sites, including many of the worlds major companies. It has oil refineries, drawn by the deep water of the Humber.'
The oil refineries are in Immingham/South Killingholme.

'The past however has led Grimsby to a future. The sign on entering Grimsby proudly states that Grimsby is the Food centre of Europe. The old fish companies still exist in Grimsby but they have changed themselves. (This would sound better as "they have changed with the times"). The knowledge of freezing fish, (no comma required here) has led to Giant cold stores, and hence a new range of frozen vegetables and foods that have become commonplace. It is a little known factor that almost a half of all the frozen Pizzas are made in Grimsby, on the old fish docks.'

'However the true nature of Grimsby is left in the legacy that remains in the Town. Of all the building and structures that surround the town, there is one that sums up the town. It can be clearly seen from the Wolds to the south and even from the North Bank of the Humber. The Docks Tower was used to open the dock gates with water pressure. It sums up Grimsby.'
The Fish Dock Tower is the symbol of Grimsby.

Fresh fish is still landed here.
I don't think you make that very clear.
The Queen is regularly sent a parcel of fresh fish as a gift from the Town's fish merchants.

Thank you for the re-write, and I apologize for my earlier comments.
I have read the other entry on Grimsby.
It's a touchy subject with me, as I live here.
I will now link to your entry on my Cleethorpes entry.
My Cleethorpes entry is still a work in progress but it should be finished before this gets edited.
I'll be interested to hear your comments, Paul J D.

Yeah there are a few typos in there , I thought Paul would spot those as soon as he did a reread. I find proof reading very difficult - I see what I expect to be there, not what is there.

On the Dock Tower; it sounds like an impressive landmark if it can be seen from that distance, I guess I'd like to be able to recognise it having read this article. Maybe I would, is it the only tower? Regarding summing up its connections to Grimsby I think you could just be explicit about it. Something along the lines of 'with its key part in operating the docks for the fishing boats of the past and the imports(container ships?) of today it sums up Grimsby. Or 'with its connections to water, fish and the harbour it symbolises (to use AGB's word ) Grimsby. Or...none of the above . Its your entry and as it turns out I had the correct understanding of your words as they are.

Paul I've finished my Cleethorpes entry now and put it into Peer Review. I have linked to your Grimsby entry. You may do the same to mine

Wazu, yes, the Dock Tower is *that* impressive.
I have seen no other tower like it, in all my travels
Going to see if I can find out the exact height for you.

Great - this Entry is taking shape nicely now.

Entries on places are obviously going to be of most practical use to people who are planning to visit the places concerned, so I always think it's a good idea to throw in some information on how to get there. It'd be good if you could include some info on the main road routes to Grimsby, what railway stations there are and how good the rail service is, and what the nearest airport is.

Then, how about one or two links? If you don't know how to do them on h2g2, there's a help page here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/A184763 . There must be some sites out there with some helpful additional information on the place. I've just done a quick search on 'Grimsby' and the Evening Telegraph site looks pretty handy. I'm not sure what the local authority is for Grimsby, but I'd imagine they must have a website too. And as you've mentioned Grimsby Town FC, you may as well link to their site. You can get the URL for the GTFC site by following the link to it on this page: http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/A249879 .

Finally, I'm afraid that your title won't survive into the Edited Guide. There is a standard way of heading Entries on towns and cities that simply goes 'town, state/county, country' - e.g. 'Whitley Bay, Tyne & Wear, UK' or 'Detroit, Michigan, USA'. So this Entry would become 'Grimsby, Humberside, UK'. That may seem boring, but it will make it clear that your Entry is on the English Grimsby and not the one in Canada that I just found out about when I did my search!

Anyway, good luck with it all!

*attempts to hid url in[URL removed by moderator]*
Be quick!
All you need to know about the Dock Tower!
It's over 300 ft in height, just in case you're too slow for the url.

I think I'll put it on my personal space so that Paul can add it to the entry.
It'll make a nice link.
There's over one million bricks contained in the tower, and the millionth brick is encased in glass.
Don't ask me who counted them.
It wasn't me!

I've changed my entry to just "Cleethorpes, UK" - now that Humberside has gone into the bin, {@Ormy}

Humberside has gone into a bin? Must have been a ing big bin!

BTW, Galaxy Babe, you too might like to take advantage of that Grimsby Town FC link mentioned in my previous posting.

Thanks Ormy.
I've added the link to my entry.
Yes, Humberside never was very popular round here.
It was originally Lincolnshire and when Humberside was dumped, we became North East Lincs.
I have mentioned this in my entry too.