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A569126 - The Limits of Quantum Mechanics: The Einstein Podolsky Rosen Paradox

Post 61

Cyzaki

Hell seems to have left the building - flea market?

smiley - panda


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Post 62

Rho

No, I don't think the FM would be appropriate as I think Hell will return to h2g2. smiley - smiley

However, I'd be happy to second a move back to entry so that, when he returns, he can submit it to PR. If he doesn't return within, say, three months, another Researcher could submit it to the FM instead.

Rho


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Post 63

Cyzaki

Fair enough! I'll let you do the e-mail, I've already done two today...

smiley - panda


A569126 - The Limits of Quantum Mechanics: The Einstein Podolsky Rosen Paradox

Post 64

Rho

smiley - cheers

I hope Hell finishes his walk round the building soon - it would be great to see this in the EG!

Rho


A569126 - The Limits of Quantum Mechanics: The Einstein Podolsky Rosen Paradox

Post 65

U195408

I agree, this could be good. I'd really like to hear his thoughts on the Bell inequality.


A569126 - The Limits of Quantum Mechanics: The Einstein Podolsky Rosen Paradox

Post 66

Geggs

Hmmm... this is still in PR.

I'll just lay this trap for Grey Desk and move quietly on.


Geggs


A569126 - The Limits of Quantum Mechanics: The Einstein Podolsky Rosen Paradox

Post 67

GreyDesk

* skips neatly over the trap *

Actually I'm minded to leave this here for a bit longer



A569126 - The Limits of Quantum Mechanics: The Einstein Podolsky Rosen Paradox

Post 68

U195408

I think, given HELL's huge volume of work, he definitely deserves special consideration. Maybe we could give a special designation, PPR - permanenent peer review.


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Post 69

Cyzaki

I think flea market for this - then he would still get credit on the final entry, or could pick it up himself if he comes back.

smiley - panda


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Post 70

Zarquon's Singing Fish!

I had been thinking about this too and I know and respect HELL as a writer. however, I would agree that the Flea Market seems to be beckoning.

smiley - fishsmiley - musicalnote


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Post 71

U195408

Ahh, what cruel times are these that an entry of the great hell is abbandoned. Sad is this day, sad.

dave


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Post 72

Oetzi Oetztaler....Anti Apartheid

##OO##


A569126 - The Limits of Quantum Mechanics: The Einstein Podolsky Rosen Paradox

Post 73

Geggs

It's been 5 months since there was any word from Hell.

Have we passed beyond the line of Special Consideration?


Geggs


A569126 - The Limits of Quantum Mechanics: The Einstein Podolsky Rosen Paradox

Post 74

GreyDesk

Nah, just a little bit longer please smiley - grovel

I promise I'll agree to a move if there has been no progress next time we do a sweep.


A569126 - The Limits of Quantum Mechanics: The Einstein Podolsky Rosen Paradox

Post 75

Dr Hell

Hi!

I am sorry it took a while...

I am going to take care of this ASAP!

HELL (back)


A569126 - The Limits of Quantum Mechanics: The Einstein Podolsky Rosen Paradox

Post 76

U195408

YEAH!!! Hey Hell, welcome back!

dave


A569126 - The Limits of Quantum Mechanics: The Einstein Podolsky Rosen Paradox

Post 77

Zarquon's Singing Fish!

smiley - coolYAY! Welcome back, Hell! smiley - applause

smiley - fishsmiley - musicalnote


A569126 - The Limits of Quantum Mechanics: The Einstein Podolsky Rosen Paradox

Post 78

Dr Hell

Phew. Just went through the backlog...

Thanks dave for taking care of the interesting discussions!

Thanks everyone for giving me a special limit. I don't deserve it, but I appreciate your patience! (But next time I'm gone, please don't bother to kick it into a more suitable forum - I used to be a mighty and successful scout, and know how clogged PR-entries suck!)

Apart from the constructive suggestions and criticism, I was very amused to read what you thought happened to me - it was quite right though, however I am not yet gone to Brazil forever - Besides they have Internet there too smiley - winkeye (maybe I should vanish more often just to see what people say... This was one of my most secret child-fantasies, to die and watch my parent's reactions smiley - winkeye I think all children have this fetish...)

OK... So here's what I am up to (before thinking about dave's event horizon hipothesis): Formulate the EPR succintly and add some Bell inequality...

Later.

HELL


A569126 - The Limits of Quantum Mechanics: The Einstein Podolsky Rosen Paradox

Post 79

U195408

smiley - applause I'm psyched to read about Bell's inequality. My rambling is very low priority. I've been thinking about it too...

I was confused and trying to understand event horizons from a special relativity point of view...that's dead wrong (need the "general"). Here's a new take...can we formulate charge interactions in terms of a curved space-time? If we did, we would presumably discover singulaties and event horizons. Would these occur on the same length scale as the Quantum mechanics of atoms & molecules? Then we might see the connection...

I wish I were smart enough to read about general relativity...

dave


A569126 - The Limits of Quantum Mechanics: The Einstein Podolsky Rosen Paradox

Post 80

xyroth

takling some of daves points, starting with singularities.

there is a fundamental limit to how small you can make a black hole, and I think it is somewhere around 10 tons. this would mean you would not find any (even theoretical) particle comming close to this weight.

Recent evidence shows that you can measure interacting particles without them knowing. it is called weak measurement, and was suggested by feynman many years ago, but they didn't figure out how to do it until recently.

basically, you measure the results, and use your knowledge of how they can interact to throw away the nonsense results. this neatly sidesteps quantum theory restrictions, and lets you do direct measurement of otherwise impossible to measure systems, expanding our knowledge of those bits of quantum theory we currently don't understand.


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