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GodBen (The Magical Astronomer) - 00000011 Started conversation Sep 3, 2005
Entry: 'Star Trek: The Next Generation' – The Television Series - A5504537
Author: GodBen-The god of doors, ducks, eunuchs, and car dealerships ( O-> ) - U518809
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A5504537 - 'Star Trek: The Next Generation' – The Television Series
Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Posted Sep 3, 2005
I really like this one. Of course, STTNG is the series I enjoyed the most.
You might make a footnote on Majel Barrett Roddenberry's being Gene Roddenberry's wife, and the voice of the starship. The argument in one episode between Lwaxanna and the ship's computer was amusing.
A few edit notes:
'which most people would probably have preferred to have happened'. Did you mean 'prefer not to have happened' or 'prefer had not happened'?
'it tried to differ itself' - 'it tried to distinguish itself from...'?
I would capitalise the ranks, such as Lieutenant Yar, and titles, such as Chief Medical Officer.
Nice summaries!
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the_jon_m - bluesman of the parish Posted Sep 3, 2005
points to data not being the only one of his kind, he has a brother, and also had the oppotunity to experience emothions with a chip, however for the seris he chose not to use it, it is in use more in the films.
Metion could be made of Yar reppearing in they episode Yesterday's enterprise before goign back in time. The leads to her romulan daughter being a recuring character
Lieutenant Worf was tactical officer in the first seris, however he combined that role with security for the others. (capital L needed on lieutenant in this section)
could be mentioned that Doc Pulaski was brought in to try and revive a McCoy character for the next gen, transport fears, strong minded, arguments with the logical one ... One of two cast members to appear in the orginal seris, she was a guest star
Majel Baret being the other, and the voice of the computer
when you said no cross overs fromt he old cast, a footnote could mention that McCoy was in the frist episode, and scotty, spock and Sarak reappear in the seris somewhere or other
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Sep 3, 2005
I don't know how you make out that Picard has an American accent. The actor is English, and he is performing in a standard upper-class English accent. His real accent is Yorkshire, which would sound very strange to American ears.
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Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Posted Sep 3, 2005
And, of course, he's supposed to be French, although he only says 'merde' once - and probably regretted it.
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There is only one thing worse than being Gosho, and that is not being Gosho Posted Sep 3, 2005
"and now men wear them too"
I don't remember that...
"The Federation hasn't been defeated by the forces of evil just yet; in fact the Federation and the Klingons are in a stable alliance"
That makes it sound as if the Klingons are either evil, the chief enemy of the Fedeartion, or both, which was never the case as far as I remember.
"with an American accent"
Picard's accent was very, very English.
Riker's character was intended be the all-action Kirk replacement, the way that Data was intended to mirror Spock.
"and can only sense other people's emotions"
Troi communicated telepathically with her mother every time Lwaxana was on board.
"He's mostly harmless"
Mostly harmless? The Borg had no idea of the existence of humanity until Q introduced them!
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the_jon_m - bluesman of the parish Posted Sep 3, 2005
>>"He's mostly harmless"
>>Mostly harmless? The Borg had no idea of the existence of humanity >>until Q introduced them!
he had also tried to destroy various whole species at difference times of the show
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shagbark Posted Sep 3, 2005
I also think you should drop the words "mostly harmless". Q's description stands well without it. A word about the final episode
I think the writers were under time pressure to come up with it and what they settled on disappointed many of the regular fans.
They also released the final episode as a novel by Michael Jan Friedman but it was considered by some to be no better than the screen play ( which was by Ronald D. Moore & Brannan Braga).
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Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Posted Sep 3, 2005
I liked the last episode, myself.
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Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor Posted Sep 4, 2005
"She holds a regular compliment of around 1,000" = complement.
"and in emergencies the she can hold over 44,000 passengers" = and in emergencies she can hold over 44,000 passengers.
"The families of crewmembers live aboard the ship" = crew members.
"The Prime Directive plays a larger part in TNG than it did in TOS, and Picard tends to stick by it more stringently that Kirk did" = than Kirk did. Any chance of a link to "The Prime Directive"?
I won't mention the "American accent" error, seeing as it's already been mentioned twice above. I do recall Picard reverting to his "native" French when his mother appeared in one episode - he called her "Mamon" and reacted like a child.
"She was rescued by Starfleet, and to return the favour, she decided to sign-up" = sign up.
"As a Klingon, he has a divided loyalty to Starfleet and the Klingon Empire, and this leads to many tough-calls over the course of the show" = tough calls.
"Pulaski was the doctor that replaced Crusher" = Pulaski was the doctor who replaced Crusher.
"Her and Picard have a close friendship" = She and Picard have a close friendship.
"He's a super-being that's seemingly capable of anything" = He's a super-being who's seemingly capable of anything.
"She got married and became pregnant in the final season" - it was nurse Ogawa's amniotic fluid which saved everyone on the ship from devolution, if you're going to mention her pregnancy then you need to explain the relevance.
"and everyone know's that orange is more powerful than blue" = and everyone knows that orange is more powerful than blue.
"and Michael Piller was brought in as a new head-writer" = head writer. Chief writer?
"and as a result he ended-up hiring Ron Moore" = and as a result he ended up hiring Ron Moore.
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summerbayexile Posted Sep 4, 2005
Just wanted to say after my reservations with TOS that the tone of this is absolutely perfect! Best treatment of the series any fan could wish for. Well done!!
SBE
PS Please accord Voyager the same respect
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GodBen (The Magical Astronomer) - 00000011 Posted Sep 4, 2005
There, I fixed all the errors and added in a few extra bits.
A5504537 - 'Star Trek: The Next Generation' – The Television Series
Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Posted Sep 4, 2005
One thing -
About Picard - 'rising to the rank after the death of his captain at the age of 28.'
Who was 28 - Picard or his captain?
Good info!
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GodBen (The Magical Astronomer) - 00000011 Posted Sep 4, 2005
There, I fixed that.
A5504537 - 'Star Trek: The Next Generation' – The Television Series
Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Posted Sep 4, 2005
A5504537 - 'Star Trek: The Next Generation' – The Television Series
Gnomon - time to move on Posted Sep 5, 2005
Is it worth mentioning that Guinan has the ability to sense the future in some vague unspecified way?
A5504537 - 'Star Trek: The Next Generation' – The Television Series
Gnomon - time to move on Posted Sep 5, 2005
Hi GodBen! This is an excellent summary, striking the perfect balance between detail and intelligent comment.
Content:
What, no mention of the Borg?
"'Not bloody A, not bloody B, not bloody C', but D." -- I don't understand that comment at all, and some people might find it offensive as it stands. Can you explain further?
Is it worth mentioning that Guinan has the ability to sense the future in some vague unspecified way?
h2g2 Style:
h2g2 style says that we must say 1960s and 1980s rather than 60s and 80s.
Typos, etc:
ladies-man -- I think that should be lady's man.
her and Picard do seem to have bottled feelings for one another --> she and Picard do seem to have bottled feelings for one another
Fans disliked her so mach --> Fans disliked her so much
[I'm surprised that fans disliked her. Everybody I know found her infinitely preferable to wimpy Dr "Blushing" Crusher.]
The same woman who play Nurse Chapel --> The same woman who played Nurse Chapel
"Despite this feature being lauded over the audience in the pilot" -- do you really mean "lauded" here? Lauded means praised.
used two more times in the series --> used twice more in the series
the shows worst --> the show's worst
An argumentative writing staff, and a writer's strike --> An argumentative writing staff and a writer's strike
dip in quality for several reasons the main one being --> dip in quality for several reasons, the main one being
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Kerr_Avon - hunting stray apostrophes and gutting poorly parsed sentences Posted Sep 5, 2005
Re: 'Bloody A'
I think it's supposed to be a mis-quote of Scotty's "No bloody A, B, C or D" from the episode Relics, when he wants the Enterprise's bridge to be re-created on the holdeck.
I don't think it works never well, unfortunately, because it's too far from the original to be easily recognisable.
Possibly "No bloody A, B or C but a D" would work.
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echomikeromeo Posted Sep 5, 2005
I think it would be good to mention the titles of the TNG films at the end: Generations, First Contact, Insurrection and Nemesis.
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David B - Singing Librarian Owl Posted Sep 5, 2005
>>ladies-man -- I think that should be lady's man.
I think ladies man is right. Or possibly ladies' man, as it usually refers to more than one lady.
Nice entry. Haven't had time to read it in detail, but the quick glance verdict is very good. Glad to see that Barclay is mentioned - one of my favourite characters.
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Peer Review: A5504537 - 'Star Trek: The Next Generation' – The Television Series
- 1: GodBen (The Magical Astronomer) - 00000011 (Sep 3, 2005)
- 2: Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor (Sep 3, 2005)
- 3: the_jon_m - bluesman of the parish (Sep 3, 2005)
- 4: Gnomon - time to move on (Sep 3, 2005)
- 5: Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor (Sep 3, 2005)
- 6: There is only one thing worse than being Gosho, and that is not being Gosho (Sep 3, 2005)
- 7: the_jon_m - bluesman of the parish (Sep 3, 2005)
- 8: shagbark (Sep 3, 2005)
- 9: Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor (Sep 3, 2005)
- 10: Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor (Sep 4, 2005)
- 11: summerbayexile (Sep 4, 2005)
- 12: GodBen (The Magical Astronomer) - 00000011 (Sep 4, 2005)
- 13: Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor (Sep 4, 2005)
- 14: GodBen (The Magical Astronomer) - 00000011 (Sep 4, 2005)
- 15: Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor (Sep 4, 2005)
- 16: Gnomon - time to move on (Sep 5, 2005)
- 17: Gnomon - time to move on (Sep 5, 2005)
- 18: Kerr_Avon - hunting stray apostrophes and gutting poorly parsed sentences (Sep 5, 2005)
- 19: echomikeromeo (Sep 5, 2005)
- 20: David B - Singing Librarian Owl (Sep 5, 2005)
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