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A536186 - Hard Boiled Slang
Mr. Cogito Started conversation Apr 17, 2001
http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/A536186
Here's an entry on the hard boiled slang you'll find in those old film noir pictures. Have a look-see and let me know what you think. And if you have only negative things to say, you'd better shut your yap before I squirt metal.
Yours,
Jake
A536186 - Hard Boiled Slang
Orcus Posted Apr 17, 2001
Hi Mr. Cogito, I like this article a lot. Its well written and many terms are explained as a group making the article flow without getting bogged down in description. . The only quibbles I have, and they are really minor, is that it doesn't seem to explain the term 'speak easy' (although I dare say most people know what that is) and the title doesn't necessarily convene to the reader what the article specifically refers to.
Were I a scout (and I just volunteered should they accept me) I would definitly find this worth reccomending.
Hope to avoid a 'concrete waistcoat' with those criticisms
Orcus
A536186 - Hard Boiled Slang
Mr. Cogito Posted Apr 17, 2001
Hello,
Okay, I'll add "speak easy" to the article, just to be clear. I'm not sure about the title, since it really is an accurate description, but many people might not know what "hard boiled" means. "Film Noir" is close, but a lot of the language appears in pulp fiction and true crime books as well.
Don't worry about winding up in a wooden kimono. I can see you're on the up and up, so I won't be filling you with sunlight or anything like that.
Yours,
Jake
A536186 - Hard Boiled Slang
Mr. Cogito Posted Apr 18, 2001
Okay,
I made a few changes as suggested and added a few more terms. Also, Alcatraz is now part of the edited guide, which is cool, because I can definitely link to it now.
Yours,
Jake
A536186 - Hard Boiled Slang
Sol Posted Apr 19, 2001
Lovely. Superb. Enjoyed this emensely. Liked the way you sli[p the words into the text in particular. And the words of course.
A536186 - Hard Boiled Slang
Mr. Cogito Posted Apr 19, 2001
Hello,
Yeah, there are several terms used to describe the crime fiction of the Twenties, Thirties, and Forties (or later works like Miller's Crossing that evoke that time).
I like this definition for Hard-Boiled I found on in Webster's Dictionary: "1a : devoid of sentimentality : TOUGH <a hard–boiled drill sergeant> b : of, relating to, or being a detective story featuring a tough unsentimental protagonist and a matter-of-fact attitude towards violence"
Hard Boiled Detectives were like the ones in Dashiell Hammett's stories. They solved the cases, but they were hardly as saintly as Sherlock Holmes or other sleuths. At the end of the Maltese Falcon, I seem to recall that Marlowe almost sets someone up to take the fall. I don't know the origins of that term. Pulp Fiction was a term to describe the cheap detective stories of the day. This term was used, because they were often published very cheaply and contained lurid and violent stories (Tarantino tried to evoke this with the title for his movie). Film Noir was the common style used in film stories. So called because it used lots of chiaroscuro lighting to underscore the sinister content and because it had dark subject matter (as opposed to the musical number films and comedies). Not all Noir films are crime films, but many are.
Yours,
Jake
A536186 - Hard Boiled Slang
MDS Posted Apr 23, 2001
Hi Mr Cogito!
You probably know this already, but I'm going to say it anyway:
Congratulations! Your article has been accepted by the editors and is now well on its way to becoming a part of the edited Guide.
(I'll forego the next bit, as I'm sure you must know it backwards already )
It only remains to say well done, and when's the next article due ?
MDS
A536186 - Hard Boiled Slang
Mr. Cogito Posted Apr 23, 2001
Hello,
Thanks muchly. You're right, I know the routine backwards and forwards by now, but it's always fun anyway.
I don't know when the next one will be. In a bit of a busy spot mostly, and all I really have is destined for Writing Workshop to get some input from others. But I'll think of something. Thanks for the support.
Yours,
Jake
Congratulations!
h2g2 auto-messages Posted Apr 25, 2001
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