A Conversation for Wales
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Trigger Posted Mar 26, 2001
Looking much better! I really like this entry personally, and I'm going to go over it one more time before I crash for the night. I'll let you know if there's anything to change soon. Keep up the good work! .
- Matt
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Trigger Posted Mar 26, 2001
I just read over your entry again and it's REALLY good. One minor thing though... in the section in which you are going into Welsh history, it looks like one massive paragraph. Break that into paragraphs and it'll look much better. Keep it up .
- Matt
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Shorn Canary ~^~^~ sign the petition to save the albatrosses Posted Mar 26, 2001
Wow. You have been busy. It's really coming along nicely. Full of fascinating facts. Well done!
To save lazy people like me having to go back a page, here's the link again:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/A525151
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Trigger Posted Mar 26, 2001
Looking good. One question though... besides some little editing... do you consider this entry complete? Good luck! .
- Matt
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HappyDude Posted Mar 27, 2001
content is fine, its just the polishing (I havent looked at it yet today as I'm sort on time).
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Mar 28, 2001
Here's some suggestions:
You should have a introductory sentence saying what Wales is. "Wales is a small country in the west of the island of Great Britain and one of the four countries in the United Kingdom."
You talk about Football and Rugby. Does the word Football mean Soccer exclusively in Wales. In many places Rugby is considered a form of football so this bit is very confusing. If it is true that "football" in Wales means Association Football (Soccer), then you should state this:
"In Wales, the term "football" always means Association Football, or Soccer. This sport although big in Wales is overtaken by Rugby. It is a shame, some say, because there is endless talent in Wales, as the likes of Matthew Jones and Ryan Giggs have proven. For more "Football" info try (link)Football."
The sentence "Modern Welsh, is very unlike English as it is descended from British, the Brythonic language and the original language of Britain. "
This would be better as:
Modern Welsh is very unlike English. It is descended from the British, the Brythonic Celtic language and the original language of Britain.
The sentence "The big difference between English and Welsh is that words are pronounced exactly as they are seen"
would be better as:
Unlike English, Welsh words are spelt phonetically, that is, they are pronounced exactly as they are written.
Is the phrase "Shut your mouth" as rude as Welsh as it sounds in English? If so, perhaps you should say this so that tourists don't go around saying it to little old ladies.
Good Work!
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Mar 28, 2001
that should read "descended from British". Somehow an extra "the" crept in.
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Mar 28, 2001
One more thing: What about the coal miners, the singing, the green valleys?
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manolan Posted Mar 28, 2001
On the whole I really liked this article, so bear that in mind when you read these rather picky comments. You can always ignore them
In the section on Sport, the full stop after Rugby seems to have been carried over to the next line.
In the section on Economy, you could make some reference to the WDA.
In the section on language, there are several things:
- While you may feel strongly about the language, it should not be capitalised in the first sentence.
- The second sentence should start 'There have been a lot of attempts to ...' rather than 'has'.
- Throughout this section, the word 'language' it repeated too many times, which makes it rather difficult to read.
- 'Welsh' is sometimes capitalised and sometimes not. I would suggest capitalising it always. It is also repeated too many times.
- This is a single sentence from the article: "The welsh language has an entirely different: alphabet A,B,C,Ch,D,Dd,E,F,Ff,G,Ng,H,I,L,Ll,M,N,O,P,Ph,R,Rh,S,T,Th,U,W and Y There are no letters J, K, Q, V, X or Z in the Welsh alphabet but the correct some Welsh letters produce the same sound e.g 'F' in Welsh is pronounced 'V' and 'cs' is pronounced 'X'." Apart from the fact that it should be at least two sentences, the words 'the correct' appear to be a mistake. Personally, I would put a space after each comma.
- 'This is because during the reign of Henry VIII he Anglicized all really welsh names....' I find that confusing. Why not just say 'This is because Hency VIII anglicised....'
- 'surname' not 'sirname'
- I'm not sure about the normal phonetic representation of 'ch', but I would suspect it isn't 'cccc'.
- How about a comment that the last line of the National Anthem (or the last line of the chorus, if you're being picky) is (apologies if I have misspelt - Welsh is NOT my first language!) 'O bydded i'r hen iaith barhau' ('O let the old language never die').
- You could complement 'bore da' with 'nos da'.
- You haven't made any reference to the fact that Wales is the only part of the UK where the use of a second language is mandatory on all official communication (including road signs - good old 'dim parcio').
- How about a comment on Llanfairpwll?
Congratulations!
h2g2 auto-messages Posted Mar 29, 2001
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Trigger Posted Mar 29, 2001
Thanks for your recommendation. You'll be glad to know that we think this entry is great, and it has now gone into the Editorial Process for future inclusion in the Edited Guide. When it does get into the Edited Guide, we will email to let you know, but please bear in mind it can take a while for entries to go through the sub-editing system. Thanks for writing for the guide!
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