A Conversation for Shakespeare's Ophelia - 'Cursed' or just a Coincidence?

A49782883 - Shakespeare's Ophelia - Curse or Coincidence?

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Gnomon - time to move on

I haven't time to give this a good read through, but I spotted two things:

Susan, later described with 'wild eyes and wavering motion' -->
Susan, later described as having 'wild eyes and wavering motion'

her contempories --> her contemporaries


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Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor

Shakespeare's Ophelia - Curse or Coincidence? - A49782883 - pageturner

Thanks Gnomonsmiley - ok

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Ϯ Lady MacbethϮ - 42

There is little or no evidence for most of your assertions.

Your theory on Hamlet/Hamlet has no basis in fact and, during a lifetime (and quite a long one) in theatre, I have never once come across anyone who considers Ophelia unlucky*.
The correct 'cure' for quoting of mentioning 'Macbeth' is to leave the room, quote from 'A Midsummer Night's Dream', turn around 3 and a half times, knock and wait to be asked to re-enter. Other versions are, however, available.
*I have never come across a production of 'Macbeth' in which something hasn't gone disastrously wrong. And I've come across an awful lot.


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Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor

Thank you for your review. Perhaps that's because I made this up, but the facts are true. I'd never heard of Harry Potter smiley - wizard until JK Rowling wrote about him, and look at the worldwide phenomenon he is nowsmiley - wow

If you're saying there's shouldn't be an Entry on the curse or coincidence of the name "Ophelia" then that's your opinion, to which you're entitled. I, however, am merely trying to bring something *fresh* using the old Bard as inspiration.

I quoted from Blackadder deliberately, because it's one of my favourite TV shows, but I will add your correct definition in the text. Many thanks.

GB


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Gnomon - time to move on

Some of your people have a bullet-pointed section highlighting the "tragedy" and others don't. Can you be consistent, please?

In the case of Kate Winslet, the bullet point is not on a tragedy but on an interesting comment about her house.

The film received a critical mauling as mixing the olde English dialogue of Shakespeare's day with modern elements like cameras and CCTV just did not work. -- this is an opinion. Presumably there are many people who feel it did work.

Julia Stiles -- there doesn't seem to be any element of tragedy here. You're not, surely, just listing everybody who ever acted as Ophelia?

Tilda resides in Scotland with the father of her twins, John Byrne, and their new partners are welcome visitors to the family home. -- Whose partners? The twins' partners?

"Ophelia has not taken off as a Christian name, which is unusual considering the popularity of the Bard's other heroines like Bianca, Margaret and Juliet, although those names were not invented by him." -- this sentence seems to have been put in the wrong section, belonging, surely, to the "Real People Named Ophelia" section.

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Some nitpicks:

They had three sons, Edward, the oldest, inherited the title of 3rd Baron Thurlow upon his father's death.
-- Change the first comma to a semicolon

more well known --> better known
-- it's a matter of choice but I think that sounds better

The Howard Stern Radio Show, that's her cackling laugh -- change the comma to a semicolon

causing the orbit to disintegrate --> causing the orbit to decay.


Oakland CA --> Oakland, California

The Claymore manga and anime character is 'Rippling Ophelia' who is a sadistic sociopath, apparently
-->
The Claymore manga and anime character 'Rippling Ophelia' is a sadistic sociopath, apparently

smiley - smiley G


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Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor

smiley - biroupdated except for: <> which I don't understandsmiley - erm could you be more direct in what you mean? Thank you Gnomon smiley - ok


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Gnomon - time to move on

I meant that all the others are people who played Ophelia and then bad things happened to them. Julia Stiles is someone who played Ophelia and nothing bad happened to her.


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Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor

But her lifestyle choice was being vegan. She became anaemic, and had to eat red meat for her health. If I was a vegan I'd find that intolerable, and consider it bad luck.


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Gnomon - time to move on

To me it seems very minor compared with the other stuff you're talking about, on a par with being on doctor's orders not to drink alcohol.


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h5ringer

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smiley - wahOoo no, not that!smiley - brave


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Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor

Eye of the beholder, methinks smiley - smiley

smiley - cheers (--->extrasmiley - ale)


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Gnomon - time to move on

Absolutely. I considered the vegan/meat thing so minor that I didn't actually realise you were proposing it as something bad that had happened to the woman.


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Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor

OK I have elaboratedsmiley - ok


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aka Bel - A87832164

>>I considered the vegan/meat thing so minor that I didn't actually realise you were proposing it as something bad that had happened to the woman.<<

Maybe you'd reconsider if you were forced to eat pumpernickel. smiley - tongueincheek


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Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor

smiley - laugh


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