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Entry: Flea Mkt Rescue -- Class and Citizenship in the Roman Republic - A44215652
Author: Bob Stafford. ACE ; - Keeper of The Treacle Shadow - Support the Beeblecasters @ A29805636 - U3151547


Please comment on this rescue edit original at A29057240

Thank you in advance

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<> something wrong here Bob

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As an example of the class system in action, only men of the Senatorial or Noble class could command a legion or hold a rank above that of Centurion.

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Non-citizens from those areas ruled by Rome could *normally* only join the Auxiliary units, not the Legions.

<> whose qualification for membership

<> where as >> whereas

<> freeborn non-Romans

Footnote 2: non citizes >> non-citizens

Hello Bob
There's no need to have <> in the title, could you remove it please?

Good rescue Bob

GB

Thank you h5ringer for your comments

All done I think please comment

Hi Galaxy Babe

All done thanks for your comments.

Any more comments or is this about ready

Bob;

This bit - "Those who were born free, those who had achieved freedom from slavery and lastly the slaves" Now I'm more of a miltary man than a political one (historically anyway) but wasn't there a big distinction around citizenship. You had to be a citizen to achieve rank, but you could purchase citizenship, or earn it through military duty ?

(I may well be remembering this wrong - but I'm sure that there were foreign regiments who were fighting to become citizens.)

Well spotted McKay its included now any more comments

A fine read


Here's a comment

>>There was considerable movement up and down between the classes so citizens who had very humble origins could achieve considerable status in Roman society.<<

considerable appears twice - perhaps you could change the first instance to 'extensive' - or something.



And here's a question

>>the Patrician and Senatorial classes were limited to farming as their only legitimate form of trade<<

Why is this? Is it the only trade that they consider suitable to their class, or is it the only one open to them? Also, couldn't they be in the military?

The last section with the header 'Women' seems like it ought to be made into two with the first one being Slaves, and the last one being Women:

<<
Slaves
The lowest in the social order were the Liberti or ex-slaves. Manumission was the act of granting freedom to a slave. A slave was often granted freedom in a master's will, or if the master allowed, their freedom could be purchased. Also known as libertini, these freed slaves could become citizens, and their children freeborn were either commoners or foreigners and depending upon wealth became Plebeians or Proletarians from birth.

Women
Women were not regarded as citizens they had no rights and could not vote. As far as legal status was concerned they had little more than slaves.
>>

Otherwise it seems (or so it seemed to me) that 'Women' comes out of the blue, followed by a discussion of slaves that almost but doesn't quite follow.


Excellent

Thanks for the interest pailaway

All done I hope a bit of a tweek here and there..


Let me know if it OK

That works for me - and the last two sections work well now

I just wish there was a good entry to link to on the Roman Mob

The entry about Justinian and the Nika Riots seems the closest
A13970577

Hi pailaway

Thanks for the comments It looks good so Justinian and the Nika Riots it is now included thanks for the tip

So are there any more comments please

Any more to add

Seems about done - I think we're down to a few minor bits of punctuation and such



>>In short the population was broadly divided into three classes. Those who were...<<

->In short, the population was broadly divided into three classes: those who were...<-



>>...had an influence on the career that was open to you, or your status in public life so which class you...<<

->had an influence on the career that was open to you and on your status in public life, so which class you<-



>>some plebeian families had became wealthy<<

->some plebeian families had become wealthy<-



>>...one had to be of plebeian origin, both could be and often were.<<

->...one had to be of plebeian origin, but both could be and often were.<-


>>Also depending upon the wealth of the parents they became Plebeians or Proletarians from birth.<<

->Also, depending upon the wealth of the parents, they became either Plebeians or Proletarians from birth.<-



That's all I found.

Thanks pailaway

All done

Hi again Bob

Footnote 4: <><--- ruleing = ruling

Last section: Freed Slaves
<><--- thair (twice) = their

In some places you have "Plebeians" and "Proletarians" but others these words aren't capitalised, I'm not sure which is correct but could you be consistent throughout the Entry?

Bob

GB

Hi Galaxy Babe

Thank you for the read through. All the points mentioned are dond

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