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Icy North Started conversation Jun 19, 2008
I once heard that many of the nonsense terms in Jabberwocky were derived by amalgamating two existing words. I'm not sure I can remember exactly which words apply to each (maybe there's a website somewhere) but it's interesting trying to spot them.
Slithy is possibly lithe + slimy, for example
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Jun 19, 2008
Humpty Dumpty specifically said that slithy was from lithe and slimy, but that was his opinion, not necessarily Lewis Carroll's.
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Icy North Posted Jun 19, 2008
I hope you're right about him - you don't want egg on your face.
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Jun 19, 2008
He also said that "chortle" which has since entered the language, was from "chuckle" and "snort".
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Icy North Posted Jun 19, 2008
Others in the dictionary:
galumph "to prance about in a self-satisfied manner": gallop and triumph.
frumious: fuming and furious.
Carroll even coined the word "portmanteau" to describe these words (it says here).
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Icy North Posted Jun 19, 2008
Some more from the OED:
bandersnatch ("A fleet, furious, fuming, fabulous creature, of dangerous propensities, immune to bribery and too fast to flee from; later, used vaguely to suggest any creature with such qualities.")
burble (a. To speak murmurously; to ‘ramble’ on. b. trans. To say (something) murmurously or in a rambling manner.)
frabjous (app. intended to suggest ‘fair’ and ‘joyous’);
frumious ("A factitious word ... subsequently explained by him as a blend of fuming and furious")
jubjub ("An imaginary bird of a ferocious, desperate and occasionally charitable nature, noted for its excellence when cooked");
manxome (perhaps fearsome, monstrous);
mimsy (Blend of miserable and flimsy) Unhappy;
outgrabe ("to emit a strange noise");
rath (according to Carroll "a species of land turtle. Head erect: mouth like a shark: the fore legs curved out so that the animal walked on its knees: smooth green body: lived on swallows and oysters");
tove (again according to Carroll "Tove, a species of Badger. They had smooth white hair, long hind legs, and short horns like a stag: lived chiefly on cheese")
tulgey (A factitious word applied to a wood; (usu. interpreted as) thick, dense, and dark);
uffish ( = HUFFISH)
vorpal (A word invented by ‘Lewis Carroll’ app. with the sense ‘keen, deadly’)
wabe (derived from the verb to swab or soak) "The side of a hill" (from its being soaked by the rain);
Well, I've learned something today!
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Jun 19, 2008
And yet Humpty Dumpty said 'a "rath" is a sort of a green pig'.
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shagbark Posted Jun 19, 2008
My dictionary says a wabe is the lawn surrounding a sundial.
This makes it a good place to spot a gnomen (which is part of a sundial
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McKay The Disorganised Posted Jun 19, 2008
My surname gets mentioned in The Jabberwock ~ just after "Come into my arms....."
Though it's probably just stout to you.
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McKay The Disorganised Posted Jun 19, 2008
My surname gets mentioned in The Jabberwock ~ just after "Come into my arms....."
Though it's probably just stout to you.
What did you think of the last Mimsy ? It was better than I was expecting.
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Jun 20, 2008
Not a bad stout, either.
I haven't been able to persuade any of my family to watch a film they've never heard of with me, so I'll just have to watch it on my own.
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shagbark Posted Jun 21, 2008
Coleridge said in his poem Limbo
'Mark'd but by the flit of shades...
Unmeaning they
As moonlight on the dial of day'
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