A Conversation for Notes from Around the Sundial

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Post 1

Icy North

I once heard that many of the nonsense terms in Jabberwocky were derived by amalgamating two existing words. I'm not sure I can remember exactly which words apply to each (maybe there's a website somewhere) but it's interesting trying to spot them.

Slithy is possibly lithe + slimy, for example


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Post 2

Gnomon - time to move on

Humpty Dumpty specifically said that slithy was from lithe and slimy, but that was his opinion, not necessarily Lewis Carroll's.


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Post 3

Icy North

I hope you're right about him - you don't want egg on your face.


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Post 4

Gnomon - time to move on

He also said that "chortle" which has since entered the language, was from "chuckle" and "snort".


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Post 5

Icy North

Others in the dictionary:

galumph "to prance about in a self-satisfied manner": gallop and triumph.

frumious: fuming and furious.

Carroll even coined the word "portmanteau" to describe these words (it says here).


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Post 6

Icy North

Some more from the OED:

bandersnatch ("A fleet, furious, fuming, fabulous creature, of dangerous propensities, immune to bribery and too fast to flee from; later, used vaguely to suggest any creature with such qualities.")

burble (a. To speak murmurously; to ‘ramble’ on. b. trans. To say (something) murmurously or in a rambling manner.)

frabjous (app. intended to suggest ‘fair’ and ‘joyous’);

frumious ("A factitious word ... subsequently explained by him as a blend of fuming and furious")

jubjub ("An imaginary bird of a ferocious, desperate and occasionally charitable nature, noted for its excellence when cooked");

manxome (perhaps fearsome, monstrous);

mimsy (Blend of miserable and flimsy) Unhappy;

outgrabe ("to emit a strange noise");

rath (according to Carroll "a species of land turtle. Head erect: mouth like a shark: the fore legs curved out so that the animal walked on its knees: smooth green body: lived on swallows and oysters");

tove (again according to Carroll "Tove, a species of Badger. They had smooth white hair, long hind legs, and short horns like a stag: lived chiefly on cheese")

tulgey (A factitious word applied to a wood; (usu. interpreted as) thick, dense, and dark);

uffish ( = HUFFISH)

vorpal (A word invented by ‘Lewis Carroll’ app. with the sense ‘keen, deadly’)

wabe (derived from the verb to swab or soak) "The side of a hill" (from its being soaked by the rain);


Well, I've learned something today!


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Post 7

Gnomon - time to move on

And yet Humpty Dumpty said 'a "rath" is a sort of a green pig'.


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Post 8

shagbark

My dictionary says a wabe is the lawn surrounding a sundial.
This makes it a good place to spot a gnomen (which is part of a sundial smiley - winkeye


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Post 9

shagbark

Also 'Mimsy were the borogroves' was reprinted in the
Science Fiction Hall of Fame' smiley - biggrin


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Post 10

McKay The Disorganised

My surname gets mentioned in The Jabberwock ~ just after "Come into my arms....."

Though it's probably just stout to you.

smiley - cider


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Post 11

McKay The Disorganised

My surname gets mentioned in The Jabberwock ~ just after "Come into my arms....."

Though it's probably just stout to you.

What did you think of the last Mimsy ? It was better than I was expecting.

smiley - cider


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Post 12

Gnomon - time to move on

Not a bad stout, either.

I haven't been able to persuade any of my family to watch a film they've never heard of with me, so I'll just have to watch it on my own.


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Post 13

shagbark

Coleridge said in his poem Limbo
'Mark'd but by the flit of shades...
Unmeaning theysmiley - spacesmiley - space
As moonlight on the dial of day'smiley - weird


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Post 14

Websailor

smiley - lurk Fascinating.

Websailor smiley - dragon


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