A Conversation for The Spanish Hapsburgs from Charles V
Ain't that just politics for you
Recumbentman Started conversation Jun 27, 2004
"France had joined the war on the Protestant side despite its Catholic monarchy in part to break the hegemony of Hapsburg power" 
Ain't that just politics for you
MotDoc, Temporarily Exiled to Tartu, Estonia Posted Jun 27, 2004
A classic example. The whole war was really a bit of a mess, but it played a key part in shaping modern Europe. 
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