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Hi, Skankyrich:

Typos:
"Elvira would be forgottOn"
"Isobel"
" Museo ArqueolÁgico" arqueológico
"Entrance iF free"

You know,my brother in-law has decorated a few arabic baths in Granada. I told you, he´s an artist.

I can´t agree with you about the nightclubs in Granada. Did you go to Planta Baja or any other venue near the famous Pedro Antonio de Alarcón street?
Summertime is special to go out at night. There are a lot of terrazas in the villages near the city. It comes to my mind now one . El Secadero, it was a few years ago, it is near Alhendín, in the way to Motril. It´s an old building used to dry tobbacco. Well , there´s a lot of them recently opened. Fresh, good music, good food...
If any summer happens that you come to Granada, please, tell me, I´ll take you around other places and you´ll change your mind.
Not High cuisine? Have you been in Las Mimbres?...there are a few more, I can ask my in-laws about it. If you want.

Buenos tardes!

Thank you very much, maiangus! It must be very strange for you, reading an Entry about yourhome town written by someone who was only there for a few days

I've corrected those spelling mistakes - well spotted! I have a problem with Isobel/Isabel, don't I?

I might have been a bit tough on the nightlife, , but I found - and correct me if I'm wrong - that most places were pretty much just discobares. Good fun, of course, but for me the best way to spend an evening in the city is to hop around the bars and plazas, and I think it's better to emphasise that. Would you have another read of that part and tell me if it's better? I've made some changes.

Similarly, I wasn't being rude about the restaurants - La Mimbre is a wonderful place, and what a fantastic setting! And I understand that Los Mimbres was good enough to be visited by the Spanish royal family, and Chikito was Diego Maradona's favourite restaurant as well as being a haunt of lots of literary figures. So, of course there are exceptions, but in general I think it's much better to recommend the value-for money places, such as those on and around Calle Elvira. Personally, I think the smaller places are more fun anyway I've added a bit about the better restaurants as well, though.

Thank you very much for all your help, I'm very grateful! And it would be great to go to Granada again for 'research' purposes

Buenas tardes, Skankyrich
Yes , I agree with you about how to spend a night in Granada. That´s exactly what I do when I visit it and used to do. A tapa touring with some friends is excellent. I like the Elvira street very much.
But I wouldn´t mention that of classy restaurants or nightlife. There are a few, quite good places, but that´s not relevant for a short visit.

I would add something else about "exploring the surrounding Montains"
Sierra Nevada has a tourist complex called Sol y Nieve, most skiers of Spain go there. It´s a fantastic place. The place in summer offers too walks on horse. Near are The Alpujarras. the place where the moorish went to hide after they were expelled from Granada. All the villages deserve a visit, Trevelez is reknonwed by its altitude ( the highest in Europe), its wine and its delicious serrano ham. The landscape in Autumn is an amazing spectacle.
At the foot of the montain and taking a road from Las Alpujarras you go to Lanjarón, famous for its medicinal water and balnearium, used from Roman times. If you follow the road you get to the tropical coast in an hour. The province of Granada is peculiar about the climate, you can find desert ( near Baza, also a Must to visit, there are remains of pre-roman cultures) with troglodites houses. Guadix landscape is our little Canyon of Colorado. Alpine, with endemic flora. Continental, where most olives trees can be seen, and the tropical coast. Most of the exotic fruits consumed in Spain come from that coast. In the coast, Salobreña, a typical postcard white village on the top of a hill,you see from its moorish castle the cañaveral, cane plantation ( an excellent rum is made there) the sea, the paradise...

Lorca... He deserves an Entry. He took the tradition of Spanish rich dramaturgy , innovated, and was also ahead of his time with some plays that only recently have been put into an escenery. Even now, people think they belong to any vanguardist playwriter. A bright man, one of the most sensitive literates I´ve studied.
La Barraca was a project of the Republican government to close the culture to everyone. There were also the Bibliobuses. There are some fimed images of La Barraca. It´s very moving to watch those illiterate people enjoying the Spanish classics from the Golden Centuries.

YOu see, Í´m going beyond checking typos or making factual comments.
You can understand me, I´m sure.
We´ll enjoy a lot that "research" visit. Sure

This is great, mariangus! With your permission, I'd like to add the information you've given me and credit you as a co-author - so this will officially be a collaboration between us. Is that ok with you?

Oh, and regarding Lorca - you're right, he does deserve a separate Entry. Unfortunately, I don't know enough to write an Entry about him, so I need to stick to the parts that are relevant to Granada

I've added a new section, and you're now a co-author

Hi skanky
thanks for your kind offer, but I can´t accept it. YOu know more than me about my own town. Just use the information I offer you.

" miradors" miradores
The remains I refer to are not in the desert, most of them are in the Arqueological Museum. La Dama de Baza, similar to the Dama de Elche, is an Iberian head of a woman, probably a notable or rich one. (I think these people could have been matriarcal ruled)
The caves, many of them are still dwelled.
I´ve forgot to mention La Vega of Granada, template climate, fertile rich lands. Tobacco, asparragus, all kind of vegetables... are still cultivated.
Inside the town: La Cartuja, near the University of Humanities, in the North of the town: Pure Barroco,
Barroco and Renaissance art: In San Juan de Dios street, near Gran Vía, you have: La Iglesia de San Juan de Dios, the San Jerónimo Chapel, the University of Law and a few buildings and churches,all very near the Cathedral.

" It was the end of an incredible era..." Why not to mention Al-Andalus period of splendor, art, scientific advances (many books on sciences were burnt by the Catholic monarchs) and mainly, the coexistence of three differnt religions and cultures at the same time and in the same place?
The nuts from Alqaeda claim that now. Al-Andalus has nothing to to with them.

Hi, folks!

I've just been looking at this Entry and have a few queries, but it's time for dinner now...

While you wait, you might like to watch this video: http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=RNWE,RNWE:2006-19,RNWE:en&q=%22Moors%27%22 - Scroll about halfway down the page. (I've only seen the first 10 minutes)

I think mariangus will approve of this quotation from Francisco de Icaza: "There is nothing in life so cruel as being blind in Granada."

Hi, Elf
I´ll have a look to that later. You´re right about that quotation. the complete one is:
Dale limosna, mujer
que no hay en la vida nada
como la pena de ser ciego en Granada

Skanky, I´ve forget to say that Trevelez is the highest village in Spain, not Europe.

There's probably a good reason for omitting the accent from the title, but I thought I'd mention it anyway.

Intro 2nd para 2nd line: 'the mountains of the Alpujarra' sounds better to me. [There are two Alpujarras, the Alpujarra of Granada (we go there at least twice a year) and the Alpujarra of Almeria. You could call them the 'Alpujarran mountains', I suppose...] I wonder which one mariangus prefers?

A Day in Granada 4th dot: (Usually 'tea room')

The Coming of the Moors 2nd line: I've got you this time...haven't I?

The Alhambra: I'm surprised not to see a link to your Alambra Entry. You refer readers to the Entry several times, but no link - again, there's likely to be a good reason for it. Anyway, this would seem to be a suitable spot for one.

The Albaicin 2nd para 1st line:
The Albaicin 2nd para 4th line:

The Cathedral and Capilla Real 2nd para 5th line: [the]

The Cathedral and Capilla Real 2nd para 6th line: [monarchs']

The Cathedral and Capilla Real 2nd para 6th line: [no one]

The Cathedral and Capilla Real 3rd para 1st line: [Moors']

Federico García Lorca 3rd line: [take off for]

Federico García Lorca 5th para 1st line: (If you have a mind to)?

Around Granada Province 2nd line: (and troglodyte3 dwellings)?

Around Granada Province 2nd line: [village]

Around Granada Province 3rd para 6th line: (the Alpujarran autumn)?




Lorca's Granada: http://classic-travel-adventures.blogspot.com/2007/01/lorcas-granada.html

Something I forgot to mention last night - well, it was 2.30am.

There are some cracking alternatives to 'wonderful/ly' - which you use three or four times, including twice in the Entry's final sentence. Any chance of a synonym?

I wouldn't suggest 'Ace', 'boffo' or 'brill' though, and I'd steer well clear of 'chillin'', 'tiptop' and 'topping'; but that still leaves quite a few...

Mariangus, I'll change the mistakes I've made, but you deserve to be credited as at least an 'Additional Research by' contributor. I'm uncomfortable about adding any more to this, because I've already strayed into areas I know little about - hence the errors that are creeping in. For example, I didn't link your suggestion about the desert people with the grass sandals I mention earlier on - they're both from the Cueva de los Murcielagos, but it's taken me a long time to work that out. The section I've added with your help took me a couple of hours to research for a few sentences. I also don't think that a long description of the Moors' achievements is appropriate; I'm already up to 3,000 words, and if I start to expand every point it will get silly. I'll be writing a whole Entry about the Moors at some point anyway



RE, I've discussed some of the points you've made in PR already, and on the thread I've asked for more time to work on it. As I said in the last post there, I'll post once again when I've finished. If you'd like to make corrections, please do so there; I don't want to to and fro between two threads answering the same points. Briefly:

There's probably a good reason for omitting the accent from the title, but I thought I'd mention it anyway. - we can't use special character codes in titles. However:

The Coming of the Moors 2nd line: I've got you this time...haven't I? - Yes

The Alhambra: I'm surprised not to see a link to your Alambra Entry. You refer readers to the Entry several times, but no link - again, there's likely to be a good reason for it. Anyway, this would seem to be a suitable spot for one. - It's not Edited yet.

(Usually 'tea room') - teahouse is a perfectly valid word, and much more common in the East.

[monarchs'] and [Moors'] - discussed in PR.

Intro and Around Granada Province - still being worked on, hence my request for more time.

Hi, Skanky,

You haven´t finished it yet, but
*calrdería* Calderería.

I accept to share the glory with you
maría

Right, I've got to all that at last

Mar, I'm confused a little about how you want crediting for your contribution. We normally add a line saying 'Additional Research by' when people have suggested extra information that the original writer has gone off and researched themselves, and a co-writer credit where people have contributed a paragraph or more. I *think* you should be an 'Additional Researcher', but you've come up with a lot of suggestions that have been very helpful. So I'd be happy to give you either, but let me know which!

Thanks very much for your help, guys!

Hi Rich,
I think that Additional Researcher is quite a good cachito de gloria for me. Anyway, I just enjoy knowing that I´ve been helpful to you.

But, you must tell me when you visit Granada again, there´s a lot to research!
Mar

Yes, definitely - we could research an Entry about the bars, restaurants and nightlife of Granada

? I don't mind if I do...