A Conversation for The Virtual Supporters' Club Euro 2004 Zone
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Ormondroyd Started conversation Jun 13, 2004
Oh boy. I hate to think what the tabloids are going to do to Beckham tomorrow. 
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Mu Beta Posted Jun 13, 2004
Nowt compared to what they'll do to Heskey. Again.
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Ormondroyd Posted Jun 13, 2004
The considerable consolation from an England point of view is how bad Croatia and Switzerland were early today. I thought before tonight's game that England would lose to France but get through by winning their other two group games, and I still think so.
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Mu Beta Posted Jun 13, 2004
Yeah. On the plus side, it's a while since I've seen England play that well in a competitive match. Ledley King was outstanding, bless 'im.
And I still don't see why everyone reaves about Paul Scholes. I've yet to be impressed by him, club or country.
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Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor Posted Jun 14, 2004
You got any 
instead of ?
I find it hard to believe that we were winning 1-0 at 90 minutes, then lost.
Bobboy Robson said after the French goal, "We better make sure we don't lose this!" and guess what?
Mind you, my son is turning out to be psychic.
When I was braced to jump to the ceiling as Beckham stepped up (too slowly) to take his penalty kick, Andrew said "He's not going to score"
so when it was saved, I blamed him.
Earlier in the day, he asked me what I thought the score was going to be.
I said "2-0 to England"
He wrote it down on his scribbling pad.
I asked what he thought it was going to be, he said "2-1 to France"
Considering he supported Brazil all the way through the last world cup, I think I'm gonna let him choose my lottery tickets this week.
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Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor Posted Jun 14, 2004
Lottery "numbers", I'll be buying the tickets...
Bobboy=Bobby
Wake up GB!
By the way in case you wanna place any late bets, Andrew reckons France are gonna win the cup.
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Otto Fisch ("Stop analysing Strava.... and cut your hedge") Posted Jun 14, 2004
Well, we nullified the best team in the world for 90 minutes, restricting them to very few real chances. Had Rooney not have been brought down, we would have won. Had Beckham not missed the penalty, we would have won. Had Silvestre had been sent off, we would have won.
Had Zidane been made to re-take that penalty (which *wasn*t* on the penalty sport), we might have got a draw. (Bitter, me??)
Oh well....
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Secretly Not Here Any More Posted Jun 14, 2004
Argentina 98, Portugal 00, Sweden 02, France 04 - what do they all have in common? Yes, that's right - 'exclusively live on ITV'.
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GreyDesk Posted Jun 14, 2004
I was within seconds of getting 3 points for the match in the Fantasy Football. And more to the point I was within seconds of getting two out of three right in my Lucky-31 selection. Now I've only got the one result correct and will be hard pushed to make a profit on the bet 
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Ormondroyd Posted Jun 14, 2004
The two salient points for me are:
1) The next two teams England will play are not remotely in the same class as France. Switzerland and Croatia looked very ordinary yesterday.
2) England are not really one of the best teams in the world, but they do have exactly the qualities a team needs to pull off cup upsets against more gifted opponents: tenacity and speed on the break out of defence. They should be able to win their next two games and reach the last eight, and could go further using the aforementioned strengths.
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Ormondroyd Posted Jun 14, 2004
I wasn't going to mention it - but thank you very much for the three Fantasy Football points I won, GD and ZZ... 
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Noggin the Nog Posted Jun 14, 2004
DSQ (Department of Statistical Quirks) Announcement.
England *could* finish with 2 points and still qualify for the quarter finals. But if they finish with 3 points they're definitely out.
Noggin
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Secretly Not Here Any More Posted Jun 14, 2004
Huh? Explain that one....
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Noggin the Nog Posted Jun 14, 2004
Think about it; if England draw both games and France win both games, then England, Croatia and Switzerland all finish with 2 points, and one of them goes through with 2 points.
To finish with 3 points England must win one and LOSE one. The team they lose to then has 4 points, and at least one of the other two teams must also finish with 4 points (or more if it's France).
I said it was a quirk 
Noggin
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GreyDesk Posted Jun 14, 2004
That would happen if France won all three of it's games by more that one goal, and all the other games in the group finished in a draw.
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Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor Posted Jun 14, 2004
eh?
3 points means 1 lost, 1 won & 1 drawn.
2 points means 1 lost & 2 drawn.
He must mean something about the GD of the other two teams, but what do I know.
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Number Six Posted Jun 14, 2004
Scholes won't play against the Swiss, seemingly.
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Secretly Not Here Any More Posted Jun 14, 2004
Who's replacing him then? Hargreaves or Butt? Or are they going to put Bridge down the left flank?
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Mu Beta Posted Jun 14, 2004
Not Butt! Please, please, please not Nicky Butt.
Give Joe Cole a chance, say I.
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