A Conversation for The H2G2-Collective Peace Treaty

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Post 1

GodBen (The Magical Astronomer) - 00000011

GodBen sign here.


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Post 2

GodBen (The Magical Astronomer) - 00000011

Alright then, I will. smiley - erm

I hope that this treaty will bring peace and closer co-operation between our two communities.

*GodBen signs*

Alright then, your turn Astrotomato.


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Post 3

astrotomato

I want to discuss terms and conditions first.


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Post 4

GodBen (The Magical Astronomer) - 00000011

What terms? I got what I want, and you get peace. Seems like a good deal to me!


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Post 5

Oetzi Oetztaler....Anti Apartheid

Astro may I remind you of my promise to Row please!


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Post 6

GodBen (The Magical Astronomer) - 00000011

Look, I have to go. Just leave you're signature, or terms, and I'll try and get back to you tomorrow.


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Post 7

astrotomato

Oetzi - what promise is that?

GodBen - Terms & Conditions:

1. The DNA Database Technology is a common format. H2G2ers shall refrain from claiming parental or superiority rights, simply due to the fact that the H2G2 site was the first application of that technology.

2. H2G2ers shall not moan about the different number, style, shape or colour of emoticons on Collective.

3. H2G2ers shall not moan about - well, all those things they do moan about, like inability to change screen colours, lack of a cliquey friends list, etc. when on Collective.

4. H2G2ers shall be energy efficient, use less packaging when shopping, recycle as much waste as possible, and not leave the tap running when cleaning their teeth, in order to promote good environmental practice.

5. H2G2ers shall not get irked when outsiders offer some criticism of their site, but shall ask what can be changed, and why the perception of non-user-friendliness exists.

In return, Astrotomato, for the length of time that the avatar exists shall:

1. Never post to H2G2 ever again.

2. Never again say that H2G2ers need to shorten their silly names.

3. Never again say that H2G2ers should actually talk to each other and make best use of Douglas Adams' creation, rather than wasting the BBC's money by throwing badly designed, murky emoticons all over the place.

4. Never run a grand pop culture project which encompasses H2G2 ever again.

5. Never again say that H2G2 cliques do not promote community, but rather elitism, tribalism and arrogance.
(It shall be noted that points 2. - 4. naturally flow out of point 1.)

If you agree to those terms and conditions, Astrotomato shall sign your peace accord.


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Post 8

Oetzi Oetztaler....Anti Apartheid

Well you know I have a "soft spot" for Row...well she wanted a peaceful holiday so I agreed that I would seek peace with the hootooers.


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Post 9

GodBen (The Magical Astronomer) - 00000011

Completely unacceptable!


YOUR DEMANDS

“1. The DNA Database Technology is a common format. H2G2ers shall refrain from claiming parental or superiority rights, simply due to the fact that the H2G2 site was the first application of that technology.”

H2G2 is the parent of all the other DNA sites. While we do not ask for a special position in collective or other sites, it must be accepted that H2G2 was the first and without it collective would not exist.

“2. H2G2ers shall not moan about the different number, style, shape or colour of emotions on Collective.”

We can moan about whatever we want. Most of us live in democracies.

“3. H2G2ers shall not moan about - well, all those things they do moan about, like inability to change screen colours, lack of a cliquey friends list, etc. when on Collective.”

Ditto.

“4. H2G2ers shall be energy efficient, use less packaging when shopping, recycle as much waste as possible, and not leave the tap running when cleaning their teeth, in order to promote good environmental practice.”

We cannot dictate what researchers do outside of the site; it’s H2G2 policy.

“5. H2G2ers shall not get irked when outsiders offer some criticism of their site, but shall ask what can be changed, and why the perception of non-user-friendliness exists.”

We can get irked by whatever we want. And you did not just insult h2g2, you also insulted it’s researchers.


YOUR CONCESSIONS

“1. Never post to H2G2 ever again.”

You can post here all you want.

“2. Never again say that H2G2ers need to shorten their silly names.”

Moan all you want, just don’t insult.

“3. Never again say that H2G2ers should actually talk to each other and make best use of Douglas Adams' creation, rather than wasting the BBC's money by throwing badly designed, murky emoticons all over the place.”

Ditto.

“4. Never run a grand pop culture project which encompasses H2G2 ever again.”

You must have express permission from those who are taking part in the experiment.

“5. Never again say that H2G2 cliques do not promote community, but rather elitism, tribalism and arrogance.”

We have one of the strongest communities on the web. The elitism and arrogance are all a part of that community.


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Post 10

Asteroid Lil - Offstage Presence


Godben, your post is incomplete. The next step in these matters is to be constructive and propose counter-terms.

It's true that many hootoo user names are very long and sometimes silly, and researchers should be reminded to find more sensible ways of enhandling themselves, as Astrotomato has evidently done.

Lil


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Post 11

GreyDesk

Hostilities? Sorry, I must have missed something somewhere smiley - flustered


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Post 12

Good Doctor Zomnker (This must be Tuesday," said GDZ to himself, sinking low over his Dr. Pepper, "I never could get the hang of Tuesdays.")

Can't we all just try and get along?


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Post 13

Doc U

Here are a couple of suggestions:

1) Terms must be addressed to individuals. GodBen cannot really claim to represent the entirety of H2G2, nor can Astrotomato represent the Collective in any meaningful way. If either of the two disagree on this point, the least they can do is acknowledge that the demands should not be for all hootooers on the one side and for just Astrotomato on the other. That's not a fair trade, is it?

2) Since this is a symbolic gesture, perhaps it should be as vague as possible, with a follow-up treaty defining terms. I'm not sure that this is a helpful suggestion, but it's at least an alternative to the current process.


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Post 14

astrotomato

Astrotomato
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GodBen (The Magical Astronomer) - 00000011

I don’t represent the entirety of hootoo; I represent those members who attacked Collective.

Here is what I propose.

(1) We are both allowed to make criticisms of each other’s sites, but we don’t insult the members.
(2) If a member from either side does insult members from the other, then that person must apologise.

MY DEMANDS

(1) Collective must admit that h2g2 is the parent site.
(2) An apology from astrotomato for the initial declaration of war.
(3) An entire smiley - cheesecake.

MY CONNCESSIONS

(1) We will not say that collective is subservient to h2g2 due to it being the parent site.
(2) An apology to astrotomato for invading collective.
(3) An entire smiley - cake.


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Post 16

~*}Black Angel{*~

erm, Gb its true that you cannot in yourself represent ok, the WHOLE of h2g2 or MOTV

as original commander of MOTV i also suggest we talk together rather than you hopping about insanely by yourself.

i would say two smiley - cheesecake


there is alot of us

but as to the terms we have to come to some agreement rather than just stubbornly putting foward ours


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Post 17

~*}Black Angel{*~

sorry i am Jack GaY_SpAcEcAdEt_----->Commander-of-MOTMV

but i'm just using charl's username coz i can't be ares to log him off

He's leaving me !! *sniff*


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Post 18

GodBen (The Magical Astronomer) - 00000011

I'm not representing the MotMV, I'm representing those brave few who attacked astrotomato. smiley - erm


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Post 19

Spacecadet Jack (Supreme Commander in Cheif) [Major]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Prehaps, but anyway whats the deal are you guys signing or continueing fighting, i have a huge amount of tomaots and i need to know if i'm cooking them or throwing them


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Post 20

GodBen (The Magical Astronomer) - 00000011

Cook half, store the rest.


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