h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

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Can I join? H2G2 is such a goldmine! Star Trek and Discworld in one!

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Obsidian.

Hmm. I could make a connection to Sherlock Holmes, slash, or both, but I won't. Can I join?

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Want to know the connection?

Sure.

Can I put it here or do I have to start a new conversation, because I will.

Here is fine

Okay... I forgot the Holmes connection, but here's the connection between slash (see A2767719) and the IDIC principle:

IDIC is Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations, meaning everything and everyone is unique. Slash is fanfiction wherein two male characters form a (usually) sexual relationship. Part of the principle of IDIC is that 'all viewpoints must be given equal billing'. According to this, if certain people (slashers) choose to interpret the relationship between two characters in such a way that would imply that the two characters were sleeping together or similar, then they hacve the right to that viewpoint and other people should not say that that particular viewpoint is incorrect. They may say they believe the slasher's point of view is different from theirs, but they may not say that particular viewpoint is absolutely wrong.

Example: I write a story depicting Kirk and Spock as lovers. Someone sends me a message saying the story, and indeed the entire concept of slash, is wrong and perverted in every way. This is that person's opinion, and they have the right to that opinion, but I also have the right to my opinion that Kirk and Spock make a good couple. For the person to state their opinion as fact, and to say that my opinion is invalid simply because they disagree is in violation of the IDIC principle, as I understand it from this entry.

Did I get it right?

It's interesting you mention Spock and Kirk.

In the book of Star Trek: The Motion Picture, there is a story about a rumour that Kirk and Spock were lovers, because Spock uses a Vulcan word (forget which) to describe him.

The word can mean "lover" but Spock means its alter meaning "brother"

Kirk crushes the rumour saying: "Were I to chose a homosexual partner, I would not chose one that was sexually active only once every seven years."

But yes, you got the essence correct.

The word you want is t'hy'la. And, if you read the passage carefully, there's no outright denial. So, it's an open-ended thing.

Yay! I was right!

I like the concept. It would be great if I could master detaching my emotions, and consider all opinions without bias. It's probably not gonna happen, but I can try. Can I join?

Taralome, if I were in a position to say you could join, I would, but I'm not, so I'll just say, 'Fine by me!' I hope you don't mind the little debate going on here.

AC, the exact quote from Kirk is: "I would dislike being thought of as so foolish that I would select a love partner who came into sexual heat only once every seven years."

This says that people who think that Vulcans are only sexually active every seven years would think him foolish for having a Vulcan partner; it does not say whether he has a Vulcan partner or not, nor does it say that they are not sexually functional between Pon Farrs. This doesn't say whether he thinks it would be foolish to have a Vulcan partner, only that he would not want to be thought foolish for having one. Very ambiguous, leaving plenty of room for interpretation. This quote comes from a footnote in *Roddenberry's* novelization of Star Trek: The Motion Picture. Also in the footnote, more quotes from Kirk:

"As for myself, although I have no moral or other objections to physical love in any of its many earthly, alien and mixed forms, I have always found my best gratification in that creature 'woman.'" This last part would imply that he has had relations with beings who were not women. Also, using the term 'best gratification,' he implies that he has compared the amount of physical satisfaction he gets from a woman compared to that from, say, a man.

I figure that's enough argument for now. I sincerely apologize if I have shocked or offended anyone, as my intent was to inform, and, hopefully, open some minds to the possibility of love between Kirk and Spock. (Remeber: these are quotes from a novelization by the creator of the characters.)

Thanks Esty.

No, I don't mind the debate. Have to admit though, I do find it a little 'out there' even for Star Trek fans.
As long as your having fun. . .

Weeell, I'm a little 'out there' even for someone with an elf living in he head

Coren: You an elf, too?

My name is elvish. Well, the Táralómë part is. I got it from an internet site that translates your full name into Middle earth names. I have a hobbit name too, as well as dwarf, orc, man, and I think that's it. I liked Táralómë best though.

So, I guess you call me an elf *waves to coren*

Coren: *mutter mumble* What site would this be, because there are some that just take a random name from the established Lord of the Rings books. If it's a site with an actual list of names, though, and definitions...