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Baron_Shatturday Posted Aug 26, 2000
We'll drink one to ya at the Highland Games this November, lassie! (laddie?)...
I'll be wearin' me kilt (in me family tartan, of course)...
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Baron_Shatturday Posted Aug 26, 2000
Sure! Shatturday is a TITLE, not a family name! If the Price of Wales can have a tartan, I guess I can too!
da Baron
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Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor Posted Aug 26, 2000
I would have thought that the heir to the throne of England can have anything he wants...but he does look good in a kilt. Not many men can carry it off. He does.
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Baron_Shatturday Posted Aug 26, 2000
Because he's Crown Prince of Scotland, as well! He can wear the Royal Stuart...
da Baron
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"Bloody English are near as bad as Pidgeons!"
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Cheerful Dragon Posted Aug 26, 2000
Actually, with very few exceptions, anybody can wear any tartan they like. The idea of tartans being clan-related is a comparatively recent invention, certainly within the last 200 years or so. One of the few exceptions is the Balmoral tartan, which was designed for Queen Victoria (as far as I know) and can only be worn by a member of the Royal Family.
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Aurora Posted Aug 27, 2000
Actually, when the Scots lived together in small groups (clans) in the Highlands, everyone bought the tartan that the local weaver made. He would make only one kind of tartan, so everyone in the clan wore that tartan!
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Cheerful Dragon Posted Aug 27, 2000
I always understood that tartans were made using whatever natural dyes were available. And I doubt that a weaver in even a small rural community would only make one kind of tartan. If it genuinely was a small community, weaving was often done by the women, each of whom might do a different tartan. And a clan's territory could cover quite a large area, so there would be more than one person weaving, and hence there would be more than one tartan in common use.
The reason I say that 'clan tartans' are a recent invention is that they were thought up by two men (French or Polish immigrants, definitely NOT Scots) who were writing a book about Scotland and its clans some time in the late 18th or early - mid-19th century. Before that a Scotsman would wear a kilt in any tartan going.
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LizardLady Posted Aug 27, 2000
Whats the point, I ask? Lizards, being resplendantly arrayed in a coat of satiny shiny scales, have no further need of adornment of course,and we pity you humans who are so naked and insecure that you need clothes to confirm your identity.Pass the pina coladas, please.
Unplaidly yours,
LizardLady
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Mac (Keeper of indecision) Posted Aug 28, 2000
my uncle married a scottish woman and in the wedding he wore a kilt and we could if we wanted also.I didn't ,but my yonger brother did but we didn't look for a specific type of tartan.
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Aurora Posted Aug 29, 2000
At my cousin's wedding all the men were asked to wear the tartan from the bride's family name. My dad chickened out because he reckoned he didn't look as good in a kilt as his brother (the bride's dad)!
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Baron_Shatturday Posted Aug 29, 2000
I'll bet the notion of "family tartans" were actually invented by the kilt-makers! They've certainly capitalized on 'em. Bloody kilt will cost you 300 American Dollars! And that's without the shoulder-sash and all the other goodies!
da Baron
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Aurora Posted Sep 2, 2000
You'd better not be talking about claymores! (See U142065, she's got one). You're better to hire a kilt, and "The other goodies" are known as a sporran.
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