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Should Richard III get a state funeral?

Post 21

Icy North

Blacks in Stratford have marked the event by holding a closing down sale.

The sign says "Now is the winter of our discount tents".


Should Richard III get a state funeral?

Post 22

Mol - on the new tablet

smiley - groan

Have to say, having (ahem) walked through the Royal Carpark fairly recently, there's not really a lot of space there for a museum and visitor centre. It's all crowded round and quite close to the cathedral.

There's a battlefield museum at Bosworth - they could take the remains there. But when all's said and done, it's just old bones. I mean, I'm not saying they should be slung into a skip, but I don't think they need to be *enshrined* somewhere. Just buried neatly with a modest plaque.

Mol


Should Richard III get a state funeral?

Post 23

Mol - on the new tablet

Also, the point of a state funeral is that everybody goes, other heads of state turn up, streets are lined with mourners, David Dimbleby does the BBC commentary, and there are souvenirs on display.

I really don't think there's going to be enough of a groundswell of support for this, for some bloke who died 500 years ago. It's not like we've had his picture on our stamps and banknotes for 60 years.

Mol


Should Richard III get a state funeral?

Post 24

Dea.. - call me Mrs B!

Dispute not with Mol, she is lunatic.


(sorry Mol but you were the post above and I like a good Richard III quote!)


Should Richard III get a state funeral?

Post 25

loonycat - run out of fizz

Leicester seems keen to hang on to his bones. Bit late for a state funeral but some kind of interrment ceremony would seem fit.


Should Richard III get a state funeral?

Post 26

clare

smiley - space
Yeah, my vote goes for him staying there where he was found... its poignant.

Also, I just did some research into him and it appears there is a strong possibility he may have gotten a bum rap!*

So he is interesting for more than just being some twisted ugly villain, that's for sure, and a museum would be good.

here smiley - cheerup is this his scepter? It has been handed down through my family from a distant relative who came from England on the first boat. Fleeing tyranny or something. smiley - ermsmiley - jester whatever.


*oh, LOL, not the stab in the butt, LOLOL, I meant he got dissed, slandered, libeled


Should Richard III get a state funeral?

Post 27

U14993989

>> I just did some research into him and it appears there is a strong possibility he may have gotten a bum rap!* <<

Well they should be able to check that once they digitally generate his buttocks from the CT scan data of his pelvis and leg bones.


Should Richard III get a state funeral?

Post 28

Icy North

Just need a 3D printer, and we can put him back in charge.


Should Richard III get a state funeral?

Post 29

swl

Anyone watch the Ch4 programme on this last night? Apparently the body was found within feet of a parking space with a big white "R" painted on it

And they don't need to CT scan the bones to find the bum stab evidence - the pelvis has a clear incision on it from a blade


Should Richard III get a state funeral?

Post 30

Superfrenchie


Well, Rameses II was received as a Head of State when he visited France in 1976 (President, red carpet and all).
So why not a state funeral for Richard III? smiley - shrug


Should Richard III get a state funeral?

Post 31

Superfrenchie

swl, to borrow the words of Doctor Jones :
"X" never, ever marks the spot.

(he just forgot to add: "R" does).
smiley - winkeye


Should Richard III get a state funeral?

Post 32

Mr. Dreadful - But really I'm not actually your friend, but I am...

"Yeah, my vote goes for him staying there where he was found... its poignant."

As poignancy goes, I'm pretty sure British car parks are pretty bereft of it. smiley - erm I guess one could argue that the dogging and post-pub fights may lend it a certain Mediaeval air. smiley - silly


Should Richard III get a state funeral?

Post 33

Mr. Dreadful - But really I'm not actually your friend, but I am...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-21328380

"Richard III Society member Philippa Langley, originator of the search, said on a Channel 4 documentary earlier: "It doesn't look like the face of a tyrant. I'm sorry but it doesn't.""

smiley - laugh "He couldn't possibly have been horrid, because he's got such a trustworthy face."

I'd hate to hear her reasoning behind voting choices.


Should Richard III get a state funeral?

Post 34

swl

Yeah, she was a bit flakey on the programme.smiley - erm


Should Richard III get a state funeral?

Post 35

Yelbakk

http://www.worldofkronos.com/gifs/discotent.gif

Now is the winter of our disco tent.


Should Richard III get a state funeral?

Post 36

Still Incognitas, Still Chairthingy, Still lurking, Still invisible, unnoticeable, missable, unseen, just haunting h2g2

I would like some respect shown to a person who did have a major part in the history of this kingdom.I believe a decent burial should be given to the remains..not some sideshow to extract cash from a gullible public.smiley - erm


Should Richard III get a state funeral?

Post 37

swl

smiley - sigh I'll say it before somebody else tediously does -



Isn't that the very definition of royalty?


Should Richard III get a state funeral?

Post 38

Mr. Dreadful - But really I'm not actually your friend, but I am...

Yeah, museams and historical sites. Just tools for milking the cash cow that is Johnny Stupid. smiley - rolleyes Brass studs the lot of 'em.


Should Richard III get a state funeral?

Post 39

tucuxii

His remains should be treated with dignity and given an burial service appropriate to his time and rank in York Minster.


Should Richard III get a state funeral?

Post 40

swl

Incidentally - Edward II, Richard III, Muammar Gaddafi - what is it with sodomising rulers upon their downfall? Are there any other examples? Is there a Guide Entry in this?smiley - winkeye


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