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aka Bel - A87832164 Posted Feb 18, 2007
A12489483 - Route 66 University Project
A3456065 The Main Street of America: Route 66
A2276822 Route 66 in Illinois
A1304623 Route 66 in Missouri
A1321381 Route 66 in Kansas
A2276813 Route 66 in Oklahoma
A3101347 Route 66 in Texas
A12490184 Route 66 in New Mexico
A12490238 Route 66 in Arizona
A12490265 Route 66 in California
A12489483 - Route 66 University Project
broelan Posted Feb 18, 2007
Americana is correct. It refers to anything distinctly American or regarding the American culture.
branches, revellers, accommodations, premises, abandoned should all be corrected.
Dead chicken is not only on the menu, but on the signboard on the front of the building. There's a couple of pictures here:
http://www.roadsideamerica.com/tips/getAttraction.php3?tip_AttractionNo==101
I don't think I've ever seen it italicised in print, though, but Six thinks that it should be here, I guess that's fine by me.
This is one of the places on 66 that I most want to visit.
The link can be added. The Corvette entry hadn't been written when I wrote these.
US 66, Highway 66, Route 66, the Mother Road, the old road; all mean Route 66. I just thought it would be too repetitive (not to mention boring) to keep saying Route 66 over and over and over again.
I don't think 'pipeline' needs an article, but I'll let Six have the final word on that.
'any more' should be 'anymore', but can be changed to 'these days'. Also, there should be a comma after California.
Six, would 'Like in New Mexico' be proper, or should it be 'Like towns in New Mexico'? I hesitate to go with the latter because the word 'town' will be repeated in that sentence something like four times. But the former doesn't sound correct.
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broelan Posted Feb 18, 2007
And I almost forgot you asked something about a National Trails road on the California page:
>> National Trails road that <<- Should it be plural?
No, it was one road that belonged to, or was recognised as part of, the National Trails System that preceded the US Highway System.
You've devoted a lot of time to this today, Bel! Thanks so much for your input
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aka Bel - A87832164 Posted Feb 18, 2007
I'm sorry, but even with an added comma and another spelling, the 'anymore doesn't make sense to me:
The only way to cross this part of the Colorado River [into Needles, California] anymore is the Interstate 40 span. - I agree, 'these days' would be clearer( well, it would be to me ).
A12489483 - Route 66 University Project
aka Bel - A87832164 Posted Feb 18, 2007
You're welcome broelan, it's really very interesting, and I learned a lot of things, so it's worth the time.
Thanks for bearing with all my questions.
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pailaway - (an utterly gratuitous link in the evolutionary chain) Posted Feb 18, 2007
Ok, I've only just finished 'The Main Street' (very good i must say ) so I'm still way behind the pack.
>>the whole route from end to end was not completly paved<<
*completely*
>>Highway 66 was so oriented to westward travel<<
while 'oriented' is ok - it carries a stronger geographical connotation, at least for me. Wouldn't 'predisposed', or 'skewed' be a little better?
>>Several examples of these unique stations have been restored (or are in various states of restoration) along Route 66, many now contain museums or gift shops.<<
suggest replacing the comma with either 'and' or a semi-colon
>>start off with a sturdy breakfast <<
this is so understated - I just love it.
>>drive-ins began to appear, offering customers the convenience of driving up, ordering and eating without ever having to leave their cars.<<
would it be worth appending - '(Their orders were often brought to them by waitresses on rollerskates)' ?
>>The Oklahoma County Line Restaurant (an old haunt of gangster Pretty Boy Floyd's)<<
I'm guessing he favored it BECAUSE it was on the county line (for getaway purposes)
There is as much great stuff here per-sentence as on the road per-mile
>>bored with the constant monotony of concrete<<
I'm a little ignorant on the use of concrete vs asphalt along 66. was a significant portion of 66 ever concrete?
>>Animal attractions were very popular, in an era not too concerned with the treatment of animals curiosity shows and roadside zoos were common<<
Should the comma be a semi-colon?
>>A trend that began in California and worked its way east was to erect buildings designed to advertise the kind of business it was.<<
suggest either 'businesses they were' or 'business inside'
>>When motoring publications published their lists of the worst speed traps in the nation, more than half of them were along Route 66.<<
I wish I could attribute the following to a cop along 66, but alas he was in Denton Delaware instead: 'If you ain't speeding, it ain't a trap'
That's it - the rest of this one looks fine to me
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pailaway - (an utterly gratuitous link in the evolutionary chain) Posted Feb 18, 2007
(hmm... I see now that probably a fair amount of 66 was concrete - ignore that comment)
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aka Bel - A87832164 Posted Feb 18, 2007
I've started reading the New Mexico entry now - just to let you know, I'm - I guess it wasn't funny for those who lost their land, but for me as a reader far away, it is very amusing, thanks for that.
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pailaway - (an utterly gratuitous link in the evolutionary chain) Posted Feb 18, 2007
You're in New Mexico now? Wave as you go by
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pailaway - (an utterly gratuitous link in the evolutionary chain) Posted Feb 18, 2007
Just left Illinois
Very good, I particularly like the 'His exhibits even include a whole other vintage gas station.'
>>Being an important route it was one of the first slated...<<
would a comma help after 'route'?
>>In Litchfield is the last remaining drive in theatre...<<
suggest 'drive-in' to be consistent.
continuing west
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pailaway - (an utterly gratuitous link in the evolutionary chain) Posted Feb 18, 2007
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pailaway - (an utterly gratuitous link in the evolutionary chain) Posted Feb 18, 2007
Missouri
>>which carries Interstate 270 across the river for free<<
suggest 'Interstate 270 traffic across'
>>In the summer heat you can enjoy treats such as the Dutchman Delight, Sin Sunday or the All Shook Up Concrete, in the cooler month of December Drewes is happy to sell you a Christmas tree with your custard.<<
suggest break into two sentences:
->...Concrete. In the cooler...<-
I tried to link to Munger Moss, but http://www.route66.com/ appears to have been off-line for a few months now.
btw, 'Today travellers can begin their Route 66 Missouri excursion by parking, taking a stroll on the bridge and enjoying the view of the St Louis skyline in the distance to the south.' is well put - it sounds very inviting.
I'll take in one more state for now and then have to get back later this eve.
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pailaway - (an utterly gratuitous link in the evolutionary chain) Posted Feb 18, 2007
Kansas
>>The history of Galena, once a thriving mining town, and mining operations in the area is chronicled in the Howard Litch Historical and Mining Museum in Galena.<<
This gets a little confising. I think it just needs a slight change:
->The history of Galena, once a thriving mining town with mining operations in the area, is chronicled in the Howard Litch Historical and Mining Museum in Galena.<-
>>Katy train depot<<
That just rolls off the tongue, doesn't it? Lovely
>>The Eisler Brothers have been in business in Riverton since 1925<<
Are they still alive? If not, then I'd suggest 'the store has been in business...'
Ok, I'm taking a little break
A12489483 - Route 66 University Project
aka Bel - A87832164 Posted Feb 18, 2007
It's too late in the night now, so I would make even less sense than I usually do, so I'll read more tomorrow.
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broelan Posted Feb 18, 2007
You guys are making me earn my keep today!
Pailaway, you're not behind at all, B'elana's going east
You and your silly semicolons! Actually, I need all the help I can get there, because I tend to drop a comma wherever my brain pauses in the middle of a thought.
So, when Six is feeling up to it (he's recently crashed his car I hear) all of the punctuation and spelling changes are fine by me.
oriented/predisposed/skewed... I still like oriented, but I skewed would work, too. What about 'designed for'? Actually, Cambridge dictionary tells me that proper UK English would be 'orientated', but the definition fits perfect: showing the direction in which something is aimed.
Yes, on drive-ins we should definitely add something about carhops. Totally missed that step. How about "...the convenience of driving up, ordering and eating without ever having to leave their cars while their food was delivered to them by carhops on roller skates."
If I remember right, the County Line Restaruant also had hidden doors and rooms allowing the gang to hide out of site or get away in the event of a raid. I think there was a restaurant on Illinois 66 that was a favorite of Al Capone's for much the same reason.
"buildings designed to advertise the kind of business inside" sounds better, thanks!
And thank you, too, for the compliments. You're making me blush
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broelan Posted Feb 18, 2007
Thanks so much guys! You're both fab!
Here's a new link for the Munger Moss (which can replace the broken one): http://www.mungermoss.com/
And the Eisler Brothers Old Riverton Store has only been owned by the Eislers since 1973. The have a good website now that they didn't have when I wrote all this (I think I wrote the Kansas bit in '04). I'll take another look at the store bit on the Kansas page and see if I can clear it up some. The new website is here: http://www.eislerbros.com/
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pailaway - (an utterly gratuitous link in the evolutionary chain) Posted Feb 18, 2007
You should stay with 'oriented' if you prefer it.
Carhops - that's the word - I couldn't think of it. Yes '...while their food was delivered to them by carhops on roller skates.' sounds great
Post #40 may have gotten lost in a flurry back there - but don't forget it. When I reach California, I expect to see 'Okies' still there
gotta go
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aka Bel - A87832164 Posted Feb 18, 2007
Well, I'm sorry this doesn't have more comments, it's great work, well written and deserves more recognition. But I guess that's one of the disadvantages of it being a university project, it requires to read a large amount of related entries within a certain time (I'm just glad you're not in a hurry to get this published) - and we'll not even get a reward by being able to pick it .
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