h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

I think five people is plenty to keep from strange opinions getting through. It would require a massive conspiracy.

And I'm temporarily leaving the post and becoming assistant editor. I'll be back in 2 months, and I'll still keep up with the processes.

It seems to me that one of the key differences between your SOG and the UG is that the UG is a group effort, trying to embrace a number of opinions, whereas your SOG is just *you*, playing at being editor-in-chief.

You only started building up your archive of entries coz you didn't want to co-operate with others; co-operate, participate, discuss and share.

Have you asked yourself *why* the site organisers prefer a group-based effort to showcase non-EG writing here, as compared to 'Spook's Own Guide'? (no, i didn't misname it out of ignorance, but to try to impress a point upon you)

You talk of 'existing groups'... but *you* do not constitute a group. Not on your own. That's just not what 'groups' are. You like setting things up and asking others to follow, but only coz that makes it 'yours'... that ain't co-operation or sharing.

When you compare The Post, CaC and the SOG you (by your own admission) do not compare like terms.

And CAC is simply another incarnation of the same desire to showcase quality non-EG writing. (speaking of which, i don't agree with your definition of AggGagCac as showing 'work in progress' or 'rough drafts' or whatever you say... certainly it has often features entries that were not particularly 'polished', but not exclusively. And many of the items from the depths of the AWW that are up for inclusion as front page UG entries have already been through either or both of The Post or AggGag.

One key thing about the UG project is that entries will be clearly labelled in the title as interesting non-EG material. This means that the relatively uninitiated will be able to do an h2g2 search and find some interesting entries that don't say 'edited' next to them but are none-the-less well worth reading. That's an effort to bring non-EG writing to a wider audience. Does the SOG do that?

well, praps i'm being optimistic trying to be reasonable about this tonight. but what the hill
spiff

Thanks Spiff

"it is still only your opinions of quality"

At the end of the day some human being's will have to give an opinion of quality. The UG revolves around a certain level of quality. I'm sorry but thats the way it is. I can't see any other reasonable way of doing this than the way we are. And quite frankly spook, I think you are being unreasonable. But I don't think I'll ever be able to convince you of that. Ever. On any subject. No matter how wrong you are.

I don't understand why you feel that there cannot be any more competing organisations (as your isn't a group as all the others are). Do you seriously believe that the SOC should be the last ever, to go along with the AGGGAGCAC and the post and what ever else there is out there?

spook, you might want to write to these people also and tell them to stop being so unfair with the "popularity contests" they're running, based entirely on the opinions of people who have been appointed as judges:

http://www.pulitzer.org/Resources/FAQs/Answers/answers.html#19
19. What are the criteria for the judging of The Pulitzer Prizes?
There are no set criteria for the judging of the Prizes. The definitions of each category (see entry forms or History page) are the only guidelines. It is left up to the Nominating Juries and The Pulitzer Prize Board to determine exactly what makes a work "distinguished."

http://www.nobel.se/literature/nomination/index.html

http://www.bookerprize.co.uk

I can see the guide entries already:
Nobel Prize - Good or Bad?
Newbery Awards - Fair or Arbitrary?
Pulitzer Prize - Where are their guidelines?
Booker Prize - Why Make Things More Complicated?

due to the insulting imput of Spiff in this thread which takes away from the discussion points being made, i am unsubscribing from this thread.

everyone else can continue discussing points with me in another thread.

spook

Very big of you. Good luck.

spiff