A Conversation for The h2g2 Language Thing

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Post 321

aka Bel - A87832164

Yes,k I know, but it never took off, did it?


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Post 322

jollywinegums

Hello,B'El.It's very difficult for a lot of British English - speakers to resist the allure of Americanisms in our language today.Children hear so many American phrases on T.V. and they sound so much more "cool" and "trendy" than Standard English, that they cannot help appropriating them.(taking something and using it as their own).Schools here stopped correcting children's spelling in the 1980's ,much to the detriment of the language.Punctuation is sadly lacking too!I often have to read threads through again,as they don't make sense to me first time aroundsmiley - smiley

I have smiley - lurked quite a bit on threads that you have posted on and always thought that your first language was English!So ,try not to be disheartened.You are a very good English writersmiley - biggrin.

[JWG] - currently trying to learn Welsh(I live there now).


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Post 323

aka Bel - A87832164

Awww, thank you. smiley - smiley I know my English is ok most of the time, but I just love to learn. Btw, here, we still learn British English, not American English. So if all else fails, you'll have to send your children over here. smiley - laugh


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Post 324

jollywinegums

My child speaks and writes fluent Welsh!smiley - bigeyes. She puts me to shame!She also reads a lot, which is the only reason why her spelling is good.


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Post 325

Hati

Anybody around here?

Is there a good English word for designing greenery and creating it, like in some new house blocks or parks or landscapes?


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Post 326

Lanzababy - Guide Editor

Hi - do you mean Landscape Design? This would be for municipal schemes, such as around office blocks or apartments. For smaller areas, such as individual house gardens, we would say Garden Design.


The contractor to do the work would be a 'landscaper' in both cases,

(like a builder would work for an architect)


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Post 327

Ivan the Terribly Average

In Australia we'd probably just say 'landscaping', wherever the job was being done, if the whole area was being designed and planted as a unit. If the planting was being done a bit at a time, over a long time, that would be plain old 'gardening'.

I must say I prefer gardening to landscaping. It has more humanity and more nature in it. But that's only my view...


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Post 328

Hati

smiley - ta
Would you call it landscaping in cemeteries as well?


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Post 329

Ivan the Terribly Average

It depends. In a 'modern' cemetery - the sort with lawns, rosebushes and flat stones, then maybe. In an older cemetery, with upright stones and fences around graves, it would be more like 'groundskeeping'.

Are you translating something? smiley - bigeyes I'm trying to work out what it could be.


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Post 330

aka Bel - A87832164

Something about Rakvere church maybe?


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Post 331

Hati

It's about modern cemetery design, creating new cemeteries and redesigning old ones.


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Post 332

Hati

Redesigning in terms of expanding, that is.


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Post 333

Ivan the Terribly Average

In that case, yes, I think it would be 'landscaping'.


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Post 334

Lanzababy - Guide Editor

Unless the plants are a major influence I would say that


"modern cemetery design, creating new cemeteries and redesigning old ones"

sounds very good as it stands. smiley - ok

If you were using a sentence such as

The landscape designer wanted to achieve a quiet, reflective space .... and so has used soft planting around a stone seating area...


then I would use 'landscape designer'

(I've never been asked to design a cemetery, but I did do one for a hospice once)


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Post 335

Hati

I am translating indeed. The whole phrase is something like "affects designing and landscaping cemeteries, building on cemeteries and choice of building materials".
Can the result of landscaping here be greenery?


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Post 336

Lanzababy - Guide Editor

Yes - that would be the implication of the word 'landscaping' in that context. It includes all the outdoor features such as pathways, walls, seating areas, grass and trees, shrubs and so on. So yes! smiley - ok


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Post 337

Hati

smiley - ta muchly smiley - biggrin


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Post 338

Lanzababy - Guide Editor

You are very welcome!


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Post 339

Hati

I have more! smiley - laugh
Is there a common word for all kind of boundary structures like walls, fences, hedges etc?


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Post 340

Lanzababy - Guide Editor

Boundary structures seems to work well with me - smiley - ok It's fine!


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