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Peer Review: A1065214 - All in the Family - The Sitcom
Almighty Tim Started conversation May 30, 2003
Entry: All in the Family - The Sitcom - A1065214
Author: Almighty Tim - U229208
This is my first attempt at getting into the edited guide, and I wrote the entry on a whim after watching a few episodes one night. I thought that such a groundbreaking show should at least be mentioned here in the guide, but I found that no one had written about it yet. So I did. 
Suggestions and critiques are more than welcome, of course.
-Tim 
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J Posted May 30, 2003
Good start!!
I have two suggestions-
A section for catchphrases 'Stifle' 'Meathead' etc.
A section for memorable moments, such as when Sammy Davis Junior kissed Archie.
Also, I think that there was a spin off of one of the spin offs. I don't remember the name of it so, I'm not sure if you included it.
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Blues Shark - For people who like this sort of thing, then this is just the sort of thing they'll like Posted May 30, 2003
The purist in me says that the debt owed by Archie and Co to Johnny Speight's 'Til Death Us Do Part' is so great that the mention of it ought to be at the top of the piece, not the bottom...I don't think 'Loosely based' really covers it either...
Other than that fine. Although vastly watered down from the British original, for ASmerican TV it represented a seismic shift in programming.
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Almighty Tim Posted Jun 1, 2003
I've moved the mention of 'Til Death Do Us Part to the first paragraph, and added a bit about other Norman Lear shows. I'd like to add some more information about the orignal British version, but I just can't find much information regarding it. Any suggestions?
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Blues Shark - For people who like this sort of thing, then this is just the sort of thing they'll like Posted Jun 1, 2003
It is quite difficult to find information on (I've been working on a piece about it for about a year now, it's slow progress). As the political correctness bandwagon has rolled round, it has fallen badly out of favour in this country, and the BBC recently admirtted that they had lost a lot of the tapes of the early episodes. 
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Friar Posted Jun 1, 2003
Is this seriously your first effort into the EG?
It's outstanding!
OF course, you could add piles and piles of material, but the only thing I would suggest is to mention that the show almost didn't get on the air. The network was afraid of the public backlash. From the very beginning Lear's creative team, the cast (esp. Reiner and O'Connor) and the network clashed regularly. This was the reason put forth for the show's short run (for a show of its success).
Even without this, I think this will get to the front page. Good Work!
Friar
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J Posted Jun 1, 2003
They also thought that this was the funniest show that was ever made, which is why the made it to CBS, despite raunchy content. It had one of the longest laughs in TV History and was considered the funniest half hour of television that ever made it to air
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Zarquon's Singing Fish! Posted Jun 1, 2003
Although I've never seen the series, this seems a good entry to me too!
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J Posted Jun 1, 2003
You've never seen All in the Family?!
*mumbles incoherently about the British*
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Blues Shark - For people who like this sort of thing, then this is just the sort of thing they'll like Posted Jun 1, 2003
Not to put too fine a point on it, importing All in the Family would have been a bit like sending coals to Newcastle (or in US terms, oil to Texas).
We had the original.
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J Posted Jun 1, 2003
You also had Steptoe and Son, the basis of another classic sitcom, Sanford and Son, which I won't get into.
*hums catchy theme to Sanford and Son*
Bup ah dah dah! bup ah dahdahdah duh dah!
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Almighty Tim Posted Jun 8, 2003
I've fixed a couple of typos I found and clarified a few points. I also want to add something in Archie's section regarding "Get outta my chair," but I can't figure out where to plug it in or even if it's worth mentioning. Suggestions?
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J Posted Jun 8, 2003
You could make a new paragraph or section about archie's chair, it doesn't have to be blended in, it can just be it's own section
If you want
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Sam Posted Jun 11, 2003
Almighty Tim,
Are you happy for me to stick this in the Edited Guide now?
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Kerr_Avon - hunting stray apostrophes and gutting poorly parsed sentences Posted Jun 11, 2003
Ahem, wouldn'y it be nice to say "the controversial BBC sitcom 'Till Death Do Us Part by Johnny Speight", give the guy credit where it's due? I mea, wouldn't hurt, would it?
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Almighty Tim Posted Jun 11, 2003
KerrAvon, I'll do that right now. Thanks for the suggestion. Other than that, Sam, I'm ready when you are. 
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Kerr_Avon - hunting stray apostrophes and gutting poorly parsed sentences Posted Jun 12, 2003
That's great.
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Blues Shark - For people who like this sort of thing, then this is just the sort of thing they'll like Posted Jun 12, 2003
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Peer Review: A1065214 - All in the Family - The Sitcom
- 1: Almighty Tim (May 30, 2003)
- 2: J (May 30, 2003)
- 3: Blues Shark - For people who like this sort of thing, then this is just the sort of thing they'll like (May 30, 2003)
- 4: Almighty Tim (Jun 1, 2003)
- 5: Blues Shark - For people who like this sort of thing, then this is just the sort of thing they'll like (Jun 1, 2003)
- 6: Friar (Jun 1, 2003)
- 7: J (Jun 1, 2003)
- 8: Zarquon's Singing Fish! (Jun 1, 2003)
- 9: J (Jun 1, 2003)
- 10: Blues Shark - For people who like this sort of thing, then this is just the sort of thing they'll like (Jun 1, 2003)
- 11: J (Jun 1, 2003)
- 12: Almighty Tim (Jun 8, 2003)
- 13: J (Jun 8, 2003)
- 14: Sam (Jun 11, 2003)
- 15: Kerr_Avon - hunting stray apostrophes and gutting poorly parsed sentences (Jun 11, 2003)
- 16: Almighty Tim (Jun 11, 2003)
- 17: Kerr_Avon - hunting stray apostrophes and gutting poorly parsed sentences (Jun 12, 2003)
- 18: h2g2 auto-messages (Jun 12, 2003)
- 19: Blues Shark - For people who like this sort of thing, then this is just the sort of thing they'll like (Jun 12, 2003)
- 20: Kerr_Avon - hunting stray apostrophes and gutting poorly parsed sentences (Jun 12, 2003)
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