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Johanna Started conversation Apr 4, 2003
... but I liked it as well 
Liked the translated phrase for some reason. I do think there are people who want and search pain simply because it's pain... but it propably gives them something... so then the sentence below makes sense...
('There is no one who loves pain itself, searches for it and wants to have it, simply because it is pain. . .')
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ArnieP Posted Apr 5, 2003
Well, Leopold von Sacher-Masoch wasn't heard of until the late 19th Century so we could say that masochism hadn't been invented in Cicero's day. 
And this was the unnecessary piece of information for today
IMSoP - Safely transferred to the 5th (or 6th?) h2g2 login system Posted Apr 5, 2003
*looks up masochism*
*finds no Entry*
I didn't know that was named after a person!
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