A Conversation for Sol-fa (1): the key to the riddle of staff notation
A1012230 - Sol-fa: the key to the riddle of staff notation (1)
The H2G2 Editors Posted Oct 8, 2003
Congratulations, Recumbantman, on your anniversary!
Incidentally, Richard Creasey, our co-founder, rides a Bromption into work too. He swears by them.
A1012230 - Sol-fa: the key to the riddle of staff notation (1)
Recumbentman Posted Oct 8, 2003
Why thank you kindly, Messieurs & Mesdames Editors!
A1012230 - Sol-fa (1): the key to the riddle of staff notation
Recumbentman Posted Oct 8, 2003
By the way I've rehashed this entry a bit more and feel I'm done with it now . . .
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Mu Beta Posted Oct 8, 2003
Does that mean I'm a bit late with a suggestion?
I was merely going to posit that the reference to 'Doh, a Deer' might be more accurate if it was referred to by the song's actual title: 'Do, Re, Mi', possibly with a link to the lyrics:
http://www.niehs.nih.gov/kids/lyrics/doremi.htm
(link to Homer Simpson's alternative 'beer' lyrics optional. )
B
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Sea Change Posted Oct 9, 2003
It's still not clear to me why you have chosen to switch from ancient to modern letter names in the place where you did. It does look like you have reworded it so that it's clear which notes you are referring to. They seem as arbitrary as they did before, though.
I have looked over the other 1/2 of the entry. The numbers without units are still disturbing to me, because I can't tell where they came from. It reads more smoothly now in general, but I suspect that is because you have catered to my commentary more than you might have liked, and my brain likes it's own ideas. I am curious what Auscnenaisse -scratch that- the German researcher thinks on rereading it.
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Sam Posted Oct 10, 2003
I am so hovering above the 'Accept' button barely able to restrain myself! Recumbentman (impressive bike ride, BTW!) would you like half a second to respond to the comments above?
A1012230 - Sol-fa (1): the key to the riddle of staff notation
Ausnahmsweise, wie üblich (Consistently inconsistent) Posted Oct 10, 2003
Hi,
this is Ausnahmsweise, wie üblich, the British-Canadian researcher
I re-read it. I still have to go off on a tangent and look up other stuff. But that's because I have absolutely no musical background (except for percussion).
It certainly reads very nicely. Style, etc. is great. I'd press the button if I were you.
Awu.
I too am impresed by the bike ride. I'm a competitive roadie, but don't do anywhere near enough touring.
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Recumbentman Posted Oct 10, 2003
Thank you again Geggs, Cyzaki, Gnomon . . . and thank you Ausnahmsweise and Sam. I was going to get back to you, Sea Change, but I wasn't sure just which entry you were referring to. The figures are all in Sol-fa (2) but the question came up in the So-fa (1) thread. The unexplained figures: I guess you mean the Ut 24, Re 27 table? . . . I did say above 'if Ut is 8x' and then 'taking x for granted' -- which was supposed to explain that.
The change from {G g etc} to all-captials is explained in the footnotes, but you are right -- the medieval distinction need not have been introduced at all. I did it for some sort of completeness, and also to explain the need for gamma.
This is not to say I want to change anything now; I'm afraid some people *will* have difficulty with these entries, simply because some people have difficulty with maths, lists, tables and such stuff. I sympathise, but recommend they either say 'whatever' and go on to another entry or else re-read until it makes sense, or until they get used to it at least.
And Master B, thanks for the correct name of the song. I'd prefer to leave the reference as it is, though (a quote of the first words) as that is clear and needs no explanation. 'Doh Re Mi' would have entailed putting in more words and God knows there are enough there already.
~R
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Zarquon's Singing Fish! Posted Oct 10, 2003
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Sea Change Posted Oct 11, 2003
Sorry about that, I find that I needed to read back and forth to understand the whole thing and had posted on the wrong thread.
Is 'x' a measurement in Hz? If it's not, I'd want to know what 1 represents.
But, now it is a matter for the Sub-Editor.
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Recumbentman Posted Oct 11, 2003
Yes, x is a measurement in Hz. When I say "if Ut is 8x" I invoke the convention that x can stand for any number. If x is 55 for instance, then 8x is 440, which would make the note A our current Ut.
As you say, it's up to the sub-ed to decide if this needs explanation. Or if such an explanation makes it any clearer.
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- 41: The H2G2 Editors (Oct 8, 2003)
- 42: Recumbentman (Oct 8, 2003)
- 43: Recumbentman (Oct 8, 2003)
- 44: Mu Beta (Oct 8, 2003)
- 45: Sea Change (Oct 9, 2003)
- 46: Sam (Oct 10, 2003)
- 47: Ausnahmsweise, wie üblich (Consistently inconsistent) (Oct 10, 2003)
- 48: h2g2 auto-messages (Oct 10, 2003)
- 49: Gnomon - time to move on (Oct 10, 2003)
- 50: Cyzaki (Oct 10, 2003)
- 51: Geggs (Oct 10, 2003)
- 52: Recumbentman (Oct 10, 2003)
- 53: Zarquon's Singing Fish! (Oct 10, 2003)
- 54: Recumbentman (Oct 10, 2003)
- 55: Sea Change (Oct 11, 2003)
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