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Is Elvis Alive
mariah_arron Started conversation Oct 30, 2002
I do not know if anyone has checked out the site, elviscraler.de it is a true fan website, but there is a discussion forum, which any of you can view as guests. I do not know if people are able to join there anymore but I have been a member for a couple of months and it discusses the theory behind Elvis faking his death.
Im just going to write a few pointers to start out with, which point to Elvis not having died in 77'
* Elvis was found dead around 1.30-2 o'clock by Ginger Alden. In her statemenr she claims to have found Elvis in blue pants...then later she changed this to golden jogging pants. There is also inconsistency in where she found him. Elvis bathroom is also a restroom, there are chairs etc, in one statement Ginger states that she found him in his whicker chair, having fallen off after having gone to read a book, later she states that he was on the toilet and his pants were down to his ankles, thus the whole, "Elvis died on the toilet." Why is there so much inconsistency in Ginger's statement, surely she would be very well aware of what happened the day the king of rock and roll died?
* The body, viewed by those that worked at Graceland and by ambulance crew, said that the man on the bathroom floor didnt look like "Elvis PresleY" The body was moved to the Baptist memorial hospital which is further away than the hospital in Graceland. Why would they take a dangeriously sick man, if not already dead man, further away from the help he needed?
* People viewing the body two days later, claim that the man in the coffin didnt look like elvis presley, the hands were smooth and there were no scars or bruises which elvis was known for having from his karate practises. Also the man looked younger and the side burns had to be glued on by hairdressers during the day because they kept falling off, sick I know? We can put this down to the autopsy where half of elvis face was lifted back from the nose for viewing...however the cut was not made down to the side burns and makes no sense to why the side burns would fall off. Also, the man that appeared younger in the coffin...looks alot like elvis during the early 60s, somewhere in the united states at the time, a wax mask of elvis was stolen from storage and mysteriously disapeared, was it taken to create a wax dummy?
*How did they managed to arrange the funeral so quickly? How did they manage to get hold of a copper coffin so quickly when they take months to make....you could say they had the power to get it done quickly...but one was mysteriously found...to fit elvis exactly....fishy...?
*Why is the spelling on elvis' grave incorrect. Elvis full name on his birth certificate is Elvis Aron Presley...great lenghts were taken by his mother to make sure that the spelling was changed from Arron to Aron when Elvis was born, why would Vernon, Elvis' father make such a reckless mistake now? And why was elvis not buried next to his beloved mother as he always requested. Later, some of you may know that the body was dug up as was his mother and moved to the memorial gardens...did elvis have cancer and later die?
* Many people claim to have seen Elvis presley...in fact a few people have known to met a mysterious man called Jon Burrows a alias used by Elvis who looked remarkably like him years after his death?
*Some of the presley family have refered to elvis as thinking this/ and liking this...a slip of the tongue that they mention him in the presense tense?
* elvis' helath was a worry in the last few months but in fact most of this media represenation of a fat and bloated man is incorrect...on stage elvis appeared unable to move around...and sing...yet there are photo's of elvis and ginger and others play a game of football, elvis moving around just fine. Elvis was healthier i 77 than in 76....he weighed less and was taking lenghts to get fit. Also he had a health check up by Loyds of London for an insurance policy which he was taking out two months before his death...he passed with flying colours...if he was unfit than why would they let him take out the policy.
*Elvis was known to be in dagerious circumstances with the mafia and worked with president nixon and had a drugs nocotic badge..if he took drugs why would he be allowed a law enforecment badge?
This is just a few bits...there are others, why was his insurance policy not cashed in? Who is dr.Hinton who claims to be treated jesse/elvis? Anyway...for now i'll leave with you the following.
I think it represents that elvis didnt die in 77' as believed...however, it neither states that he is alive today.
mariah
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Arianrhod Posted Oct 30, 2002
Course he's not alive, although I do understand where you're coming from. There are a lot of uncertainties concerning Elvis' death, but why can't you just accept that he's dead?!
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the autist formerly known as flinch Posted Oct 30, 2002
Let's face it, when The King died, there was a massive panic to cover up anything which might implicate any of the staff in the various missdiongs within the Gracelands organisation. There is a conspiracy there, but it's not that Elvis is still alive.
Such a shame too, he could have been on the verge of a new carrer break.
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Arianrhod Posted Oct 30, 2002
This is mariah talking.
You have made a valid point, however, i believe that there is too much evidence to suggest that he didn't die in 77. If you could pile up the evidence to suggest he did, you could see that it doesn't make such a long list compared to him not dying. There are many more things which i could show to you that he didn't but i will wait for your reply.
Anyway, thankyaverymuch!
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ghia return of >> Posted Oct 30, 2002
the points u raise are very interesting, however are they facts or hearsay?
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Arianrhod Posted Oct 30, 2002
Mariah again - NOT fallen angel may I add. I'm merely writing for a friend.
Okay, most of the stuff i stated was fact. On the ElvisCrawler website, we have copies of the death certificate, pictures of Elvis months before he died, visual links and sound links which all are 100% genuine. We also have sources from those closest to Elvis who have come on and spoken to us, stating what I wrote above. However, of course some of it is merely my opinion. But the part about the gravestone, what the ambulance men said about the body, and the insurance policy are all correct. Also, i forgot to mention that there were also inconsistencies in the death certificate, etc.
If you want to know more, e-mail me at [email protected]
Mariah.
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EP4EVER Posted Nov 8, 2002
You rise some very interesting points in your post, I wish more than anything that Elvis was still with us, but I do believe that he passed away in 1977 and we lost the worlds greatest entertainer.
I have read about those points that you mentioned in a book not so long ago, but I think most of them can be answered and have been answered by various members of Elvis' family and the Memphis Mafia.
I don't think Elvis would do this to his fans, he loved them to much.
Is Elvis Alive
EP4EVER Posted Nov 8, 2002
You raise some very interesting points in your post, I wish more than anything that Elvis was still with us, but I do believe that he passed away in 1977 and we lost the worlds greatest entertainer.
I have read about those points that you mentioned in a book not so long ago, but I think most of them can be answered and have been answered by various members of Elvis' family and the Memphis Mafia.
I don't think Elvis would do this to his fans, he loved them to much.
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mariah_arron Posted Nov 13, 2002
maybe he didnt have a choice.
Also, if you live in the USA you will se that on the news just yesterday, i think it was on CNN and Fox news, that a man claiming to know elvis says he will be returning to our screen very soon, e.g. the truth will be uncovered.
There are other facts i could say but id go on all day
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EP4EVER Posted Nov 13, 2002
I don't live in America, so i didn't get to see the news report you are talking about. Did it give any indication of where and when this was going to happen?
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magoogy Posted Mar 28, 2003
can u imagine if elvis was 'reborn'? it'd be the biggest story ever!!!!
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Noth€r Posted Aug 18, 2006
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/5262854.stm
seems you can still make money out of the old fella
Nother
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- 5: ghia return of >> (Oct 30, 2002)
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