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How Enigma was actually broken
Phil Posted Oct 31, 2000
There are quite a few sites which tell the story of the Enigma codebreaking. Interesting as you say.
How Enigma was actually broken
Munchkin Posted Oct 31, 2000
A wee point, but wasn't the original Bombe developed by a Pole? I think Turing then developed on it.
Oh, and while I am here I recomend Cryptonomicon by Neal Stephenson, which is a cracking book which has some interesting stuff on Bletchley Park and codes.
How Enigma was actually broken
Phil Posted Oct 31, 2000
Yes it was the poles. They also were the first to intercept an enigma machine and do the initial cryptanalysis on it. The machine that was recovered from the U-Boat was a later version (more rotors and they could chose which ones from a set).
How Enigma was actually broken
Mr Prophet (General Purpose Genre Guru) Posted Nov 1, 2000
The notable achievement of the Bletchley cryptanalysts was breaking the Enigma on an industrial scale, using computer technology years ahead of its time, which was all broken up after the war to maintain secrecy. Britain was apparently keen to keep its mastery of Enigma secret because a lot of our allies were still using captured Enigma machines for diplomatic and intelligence communicatons.
There was an excellent series on Bletchley Park - on BBC or Channel 4, I forget which - called Station X. I only caught a little of it, but it was very well made.
My favourite anecdote about the Enigma capture is that - after securing the U-boat and establishing that they had in fact lucked out and recovered an intact set of code books - the leader of the boarding party sent back to his ship for tea. It may be b*****ks, but it's certainly very British (and properly so).
The Prophet
How Enigma was actually broken
Sho - employed again! Posted Nov 9, 2000
My experience of the British Military Intelligence community suggests that sending for tea is what they always do when it's tea time, and, usually, one-time code pad sheets are folded neatly into squares and used as coasters. (I'm not sure if that's an official secret or not, so don't tell anyone!)
How Enigma was actually broken
Mr Prophet (General Purpose Genre Guru) Posted Nov 9, 2000
It's precisely this kind of thing that makes me proud to be British.
The Prophet.
How Enigma was actually broken
Sho - employed again! Posted Nov 9, 2000
Part of our training was a trip to look at the enigma machines. Pity they're not original though.
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