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Grape Health Benefits
Skankyrich [?] Started conversation Nov 6, 2008
I'm eating a lot of grapes at the moment, so I thought I'd see what we have to say about them
And it's mostly excellent until... uh-oh...
'Besides these grapes also contain flavonoids which as well as giving the grape its colour, are believed to reduce the risk of heart disease, cancer and Alzheimer's disease. However, grapes also contain tannins (Organic compounds), which contradict the notion that grapes can cure cancer as scientists believe tannins promote the risk of cancer.'
Ok, the first bit is factually correct, but a little pointless. Flavonoids have indeed been shown to have potential in reducing the risk of cancer and heart disease; ironically, though, the body wants to get rid of them and works to break 'em up and flush 'em out. The body needs very little in the way of flavonoids to get this 'protection', anyway - you get more than enough in an average balanced diet - and you can get more from citrus fruits, tea and red wine (which contains more than grapes because the skins remain in contact with the wine). If you really wanted lots of flavonoids, you'd eat something else.
There is nothing concrete, as yet, to link flavonoids with Alzheimer's. There was a trial which studied the effects of two flavonoids, luteolin and diosmin, on a plaque which is symptomatic of the disease. The trial was fairly successful, but was conducted on mice; for some reason, Alheimer's drugs tend to fail at this important stage. This doesn't mean it won't be successful, but we don't know if it's going to be any use at all yet. Oh - and you won't find much of either of those flavonoids in a grape.
'However, grapes also contain tannins (Organic compounds), which contradict the notion that grapes can cure cancer...' notwithstanding all the above, grapes can, at best, help to prevent cancer. That's quite different to a cure.
'...scientists believe tannins promote the risk of cancer.' Again, not much tannin in a grape, unless you squash a load of them, ferment them and leave them to mature in oak barrels. Tannins are still quite useful, though, and they have been studied for anti-cancer properties themselves. In fact, the only 'tannin causes cancer' research I can find is http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0876/is_n56/ai_9164614 , and if you believe that nonsense you probably think Gillian McKeith is great.
Ooh, I do go on, eh?
And the rest of the Entry is very, very good
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Opticalillusion- media mynx life would be boring without hiccups Posted Nov 7, 2008
Hi Skanky it's been a long time since I first wrote this. for reading it. I like the fact that you felt it a good read and for the insight.
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Skankyrich [?] Posted Nov 10, 2008
I think the errors in this section should be corrected, though. How about you?
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Opticalillusion- media mynx life would be boring without hiccups Posted Nov 11, 2008
Do you wish me to do an Update Entry?
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Skankyrich [?] Posted Nov 13, 2008
I don't think it needs a full update, but I do think those sentences should just be Curated out. I could take care of that, with your permission
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Opticalillusion- media mynx life would be boring without hiccups Posted Nov 14, 2008
would it still be all my own Entry?
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Opticalillusion- media mynx life would be boring without hiccups Posted Nov 16, 2008
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Opticalillusion- media mynx life would be boring without hiccups Posted Nov 16, 2008
I look forward to seeing the result
On another note could you tell me whether the Madonna Vogue Project could be made a University project? I think I may have posed this query before but forget the answer.
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Skankyrich [?] Posted Nov 17, 2008
Did you go through the University process when you wrote it, or not?
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Opticalillusion- media mynx life would be boring without hiccups Posted Nov 17, 2008
No
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Opticalillusion- media mynx life would be boring without hiccups Posted Nov 20, 2008
am I to presume something?
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Skankyrich [?] Posted Nov 21, 2008
Excuse me? I haven't logged in for three days, as I've been working on every night. If you're going to be sarcastic, ask someone else instead.
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Opticalillusion- media mynx life would be boring without hiccups Posted Nov 21, 2008
Oh Skankyrich I didn't mean to upset you I'm I dont mean to be sarcastic.
and the AViators stuff you do is fantastic and may long it continue.
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Skankyrich [?] Posted Nov 21, 2008
Ok. Just remember that most of my work these days isn't done under the Skankyrich account, so I don't use it every day. I often don't even log in to it for a week or so.
When I was involved with the Edited Guide, which I'm not really now, Uni projects weren't awarded retrospectively. I hope that's still the case, because I think there's more to a Uni project than just writing Entries on a theme.
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