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Jerms - a Brief flicker and then gone again. Posted Sep 8, 2004
Just to get in before Arisztid... 
'Cormorants' has two 'r's. 
Apart from that I'm just going to sit back and see what other people have to say about it... and to see what else you can come up with. 
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Edward the Bonobo - Gone. Posted Sep 8, 2004
Yes, good. Very much in the Irish spirit of looking at things sideways and backwards. And also a very Irish use of language, with its love of un-fancy words joined together in pleasing rhythmic phrases (arial charabancs; shilly-shallying). Also note the occasional conversational, colloquial phrase to bring the whole thing back to earth (whichever was the truth of it; doing their level best) - which reinforces the idea of extrordinary ordinariness.
Incidentally - I love Seamus Heaney's definition of poetry. He refers to the imaginary linguistic line that runs diagonally across the British Isles. North and West of this line, people say 'Och'. To the South and East, they say something like 'Oh dearie me.' "Poetry expresses the essential 'och-ness' of life."
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Researcher 556780 Posted Sep 8, 2004
I'm not a poetic expert, and have trouble reading verse at times...
...but...
I know that I like it 
and can actually follow the pace.. The words and thought are arranged wonderfully.
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Blackberry Cat , if one wishes to remain an individual in the midst of the teeming multitudes, one must make oneself grotesque Posted Sep 8, 2004
the spelling and punctuation mistakes are mine, not MacCaigs
he was a friend and admirer of Hugh MacDiarmid, although much less political
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Edward the Bonobo - Gone. Posted Sep 8, 2004
Aye, some doing to get expelled from a party you were one of the founder members of!
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Blackberry Cat , if one wishes to remain an individual in the midst of the teeming multitudes, one must make oneself grotesque Posted Sep 8, 2004
Yes, my friend Kevin Higgins managed to get expelled from both the Labour Party and Militant but he wasn't a founder of either
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hellboundforjoy Posted Sep 9, 2004
I have trouble following poetry when I'm reading it. I find it much easier to understand if it's read to me. I sometimes try reading it outloud to myself but I feel self-conscious about it.
, I know.
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Edward the Bonobo - Gone. Posted Sep 9, 2004
Well...good poetry has to start with tone and rhythm. I once heard the great Ivor Cutler (http://www.ivorcutler.org/) read a poem made up of nonsense syllables.
He then said "I always advise budding poets to do this sort of thing for a few years. They should only move onto meaning when they've got the hang of the basics."
When the audience tittered, he said "It's a shame. You're all laughing because you regard me as a funny man. But I'm being as serious as I know how."
Of course - there's a fine line between poetry and doggerel, but here's a good example of what I regard as an effective ryhthm. (I can't post the text here because it contains sweary words 
): http://www.cyberspike.com/clarke/chicktow.html
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Snailrind Posted Sep 9, 2004
I agree with Ivor Cutler's point. I've found that writing poems in nonsense syllables is fun, and helps me to focus on structure. Trouble is, when I get someone else to read them, they don't pronounce 'em right!
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Researcher 556780 Posted Sep 9, 2004
Just like me above, I didn't even type it out right! oppsie!
I seem to remember a woman Pam Ayres, I used to love listening to her she was so funny and had a great attention grabbing voice with a delightful accent.
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Blackberry Cat , if one wishes to remain an individual in the midst of the teeming multitudes, one must make oneself grotesque Posted Sep 9, 2004
Remember going to see Attilla the Stockbroker and John Cooper Clark in the early 80s
Some poetry demands to be spoken (or ranted) rather than read
Maybe 1 day we will be able to post audio to hootoo
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Researcher 556780 Posted Sep 9, 2004
eeeeeeeeeek! 
Considering the feelings of some on here, it might not be a good idea...
Not all of us can contain civil tongue in our heads when challanged, and that includes myself..
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Blackberry Cat , if one wishes to remain an individual in the midst of the teeming multitudes, one must make oneself grotesque Posted Sep 9, 2004
true, they'd have to invent an audio 
to stick in posts
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DA ; Simply Vicky: Don't get pithy with me! Posted Sep 9, 2004
That is excellent, BC - very evocative.
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