This is a Journal entry by Unch (*buuurp*)

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Unch (*buuurp*)

What is the sound of one hand clapping?


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~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum

Why is the when of who doing how?
If that's where it's at.


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Unch (*buuurp*)

Hmmm....


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~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum

Hmmmm...y'say.
Nope, it'd be more of fluttery sound.


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Unch (*buuurp*)

Hmmmm....

(I can hear it now and there's no fluttering)

smiley - smiley

Mr. John W. Fulton


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Gw7en, Voice of Chaos (Classic)

I'd personally say that its "CL". The other hand makes the "AP" sound.

We used to drive our sensei crazy asking these questions at the end of class. My two favorites are the ever classic, "If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it still make and sound?" and the rather more modern "If a turtle is without his shell, is he homeless or naked?".

G7


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Unch (*buuurp*)

sensei - what were you studying?

the first one is 'no' i think, but i've never heard the second before. and i can't think of a clever zen answer!


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Gw7en, Voice of Chaos (Classic)

I studied ninpo bugei. I enjoyed it very much, but the sensei couldn't keep the school open any longer and the next closest is 20 miles away. I was committed, but not that commited, I'm afraid.

G7


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~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum

Well there you have it! The perfect answer to the original question, as it usually is for any question, is of course another question. Thus, my answer is, "What is the sound of one school closing and if you're twenty miles away will anybody hear it?"

As for the shell-less turtle ..at the risk of being crass for the sake of realism and truth ..naked AND homeless AND dead. Sort of a hat-trick, really.

peace brethren (and cistern)
~jwf~


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Gw7en, Voice of Chaos (Classic)

smiley - laugh We got the "dead" answer about a week after we asked. Sensei went home and did some research apparently. smiley - winkeye

G7


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Post 11

Unch (*buuurp*)

ready to cook?


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Post 12

Gw7en, Voice of Chaos (Classic)

Mock turtle soup... smiley - winkeye

G7


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Unch (*buuurp*)

I've done judo, tai kwon do and kung fu (which i liked most). Someone once told me that he saw some ninjas levitating, but I'm a bit sceptical smiley - smiley .

I once went to an akido lesson - they're vicious!


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Gw7en, Voice of Chaos (Classic)

I never levitated, although I did learn how to run up walls. smiley - winkeye

I did some tae kwon do, but that's my only other real martial arts training. I wanted to learn kung fu, but couldn't find a dojo. Akido was another thing that I wanted to try. I've got a bit of a vicious streak occasionally, so it now seems lik something I should try. smiley - biggrin

G7


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Unch (*buuurp*)

it wasn't just moves (this one breaks the shoulder...) but the whole atmosphere seemed rather psychotic.

i wanted to do kendo but there isn't a club nearby

how about you jwf?

(let's beat him up smiley - smiley )


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Gw7en, Voice of Chaos (Classic)

smiley - devil

G7


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~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum

I'm more the sumo wrestler type. Obviously the traditional breath suppressing chest crushing back breaking 'bear hug' technique requires getting close enuff to opponents to encircle them in the grip of my mighty arms; not so easy in these days of the nimble ninja types. So, if all else fails I can always pick up a small automobile and drop it on my opponents.

elephants never ...uhm ...
~jwf~


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Gw7en, Voice of Chaos (Classic)

*deftly dodges a thrown Volkswagon*

smiley - laugh

Its a very good thing that we aren't opponents, JWF. You're far to nice a person to drop cars on us. (At least without proper provocation. smiley - winkeye)

G7


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Unch (*buuurp*)

anyway, what's the sound of one hand clapping?


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Gw7en, Voice of Chaos (Classic)

I believe that I answered that one already... smiley - winkeye

G7


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