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Oh, don't worry. My take is that Justin suffered a total psychological and emotional breakdown after the fruits of his horrific past behaviour came home to roost (oops, mixing my metaphors there, I think).

Anyhow, he found *salvation in Christ*.

Well, he might also have found escape in heroin or booze, so perhaps a crazy belief that one has been *Chosen by Jesus* might be considered less evil. And perhaps so. EXCEPT that Justin has turned this all around to make it seem that he is somehow *special* and that he, and only he, knows the True Word of God.

Well, it seems Justin now includes Sam in his little special group, and if I were Sam I'd run screaming in the other direction (towards sanity) but anyhow . . .

I don't actually expect Justin or Sam to ever 'see the light' of reason, but perhaps there is still hope for Good News?


az

"I don't actually expect Justin or Sam to ever 'see the light' of reason, but perhaps there is still hope for Good News?"

I've not given up hope that they might yet see the light of Christ.

True enough, anhaga, I don't see them as having a clear grasp on what Christ was all about, except for what suits their needs.


az

Az,

Thanks for posting the link to Justin's testimonial, it helps to understand where these guys are coming from. I was reading elsewhere about the relativity of good and evil. Perhaps from Justins perspective he is in a better position now. GSD is clearly posturing, and I also think GN is a little more capable of critical thought than they are letting on.

Maybe their needs as far as Christ is concerned are somewhat baser than most.

What about all those racist baptists who are members of the KKK, NF etc. who preach hatred and death to coloured people?

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Yes, I'm interested too. Was it a relief because you no longer had to take responsibility for your previous actions? Tough though because you lost friends. But, I suppose, a way to feel truly happy with yourself.

I do hope you answer as Justin too.


Alex.

So, what are the odds that Sam got arrested when he tried to re-enter the UK, as being someone who incites hatred?

I'd pay good money to see him tell the immigration officials they're going to burn in hell forever.

or maybe he would start talking about the stench of catholicism as he was walking towards some catholic security...

. . . in the Vatican.


az

That wouldn't be the worst stench once the rubber gloves come out...

*laughing out loud* That last one was great!

Now I'm picturing him having that discussion with the Swiss Guard.

"I see that you are trying to get turkeys to vote for Christmas, my brother. You cannot do it. Their master and father will not allow them to admit that they are utterly wicked, and repentence unto life is entirely the engineering of, and gift of, our Lord. "

Hmm.. so what became of freewill, then?

> Hmm.. so what became of freewill, then?

For the Pastor, free will only exists when they follow his way.

Ah, but - if I'm a servant of the devil and he " will not allow them to admit that they are utterly wicked" then i don't get the chance to choose to follow Justin's way, do I?

Or, if he says I do, then the devil can't be stopping me from admitting whatever, can he?

I actually find it a bit weird that conversations continue here when it is obvious that Sam and Justin have gone off to other religious message boards that allow them to say whatever putrid crap they like amongst 'peers'.

I once saw one of these message boards but after one visit I was suddenly 'banned' from accessing this site.

What I saw there (albeit briefly) was actually quite hideous and horrific.

Worse than nazis. Worse than anything I can think of.

Well, what else can you say about certain very sick individuals who feel they have to belong to a 'saved' and/or 'secret sect' to make themselves feel worthwhile and who believe all the rest of humanity - in their vile opinion - are damned.

It's worse than childish. It's even worse than ignorant. It's fundamentalist religion at its worst, and we all know where that sort of social sickness can lead to.

I've attempted to debate with Justin for about two years now - but he does not ever debate anything. He just spews out his sick-in-the-head nastiness towards everyone else and continues to call himself 'saved by Jesus'. Pah. In fact he takes the name of Jesus in vain every time he opens his vile mouth. As does Sam.


az

"I actually find it a bit weird that conversations continue here when it is obvious that Sam and Justin have gone off to other religious message boards that allow them to say whatever putrid crap they like amongst 'peers'. "

Perhaps he's on holiday. wasn't he going off to support a catholic economy with his Daddy's hard-earned money.

If I was his Dad I'd have strangled him by now.

As an aside, isn't knowing the identity of your father a bar on joining the Tory party?

" it is obvious that Sam and Justin have gone off to other religious message boards that allow them to say whatever putrid crap they like amongst 'peers'."

I just checked; wherever Sam is he's not on Justin's 'God of Grace' forum, which is the only 'safe' one I know that that he uses. Indeeed I can't find any evidence of Sam there. Yet.