h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

Hey Tony

As you may know, I'm subbing your Anglo-Irish entries. I've just finished Part I - you can find it at A4454958. If you could take a look through it and let me know if there's any changes you'd like made, that would be great.

I've edited Part II but haven't got round to putting in links yet, and Part III is yet to be touched - but I'll get to it very soon, I promise!

It's been a pleasure reading these entries, you know. So well-formulated. Epic historical entries are my speciality as far as subbing is concerned, so thanks for bringing some my way.

Thanks!

Read through it all, I didn't realise there was that many things to link it to, bet that was a gruelling task searching for them all, I've saved you some work on Part III with that at least. One thing I meant to do with Part I but never came round to was quickly noting what the 1838 Tithe Act actually did, its in the O'Connellites and Tithe War subheader section, if you could briefly explain that it transferred the responsibility over Tithe payment from the Catholic peasantry to the Protestant landlord, meaning the peasantry were no longer paying it directly to a church that wasn't theres, solving the problem.

Also the brief 1803 rebellion was led by Robert Emmet, I figure it could go in there. Otherwise, nothing that I can think of, grand job

All right, I'll add in the bit about the Tithe Act.

But if you want anything in about this 1803 rebellion, you're going to have to write out your paragraph(s) for me. I know very little about Irish history and so can't do these things on my own.

I just meant put down that the rebellion was led by Emmet, who was a member of the SUI, nothing else, its not really noteworthy but details make a story I believe.

I've already mentioned in the bit about prosperity after Act of Union about the 1803 rebellion, I just wanted to add to it that it was lead by SUI key figure Robert Emmet. Nothing too fancy, thank you pleashe

The point shall be added in around two shakes of a lamb's tail, or thereabouts. Is that it? If so, I'll return this part to the Italics and get cracking on the next bit.

In part 2 the last footnote, about Parnell and Kitty O'Shea, it has two full stops in the middle where there should be one, that meant to be like that or just a typo?

Also your definition of Habeas Corpus seems a little muddled, how about "The right to be brought to trial and lawful imprisonment"?

Btw, don't suppose you like video games 'cos my next entry is on the Tekken series, though I haven't finished them yet.

I'll fix the full-stops, but according to Webster's habeas corpus (literally, 'you should have the body') means the right to lawful imprisonment. But I suppose you're right, therefore with due process, therefore after trial. Can we go with 'The right to be imprisoned with due process' or something like that?

Well, I know absolutely nothing about video games, and don't play them much. But I know absolutely nothing about Irish history either, you see - though I've at least got an interest in it. (I've learnt from your entries, though!)

I saw the series sitting in your Space, and just as a word of advice, I'd hold off submitting them to Peer Review if I were you. You see, they won't all get picked at the same time like the Irish ones were, because Scouts are supposed to pick 2-3 entries at a time. You'll have to sit around there waiting, and you won't have the same Sub-editor for all of them, and it'll be a big pain in the arse.

But, there is, as I understand it, some interest among the community in reviving a project called the h2g2 University, which is a way to work on larger series of entries. If that is gone through with (Jimster, one of the Editors, was talking seriously about it) then it would be a great place for the Tekken series.

So... part I is all good to go? I'll return it then, unless I hear otherwise from you. Onto part II: I still haven't put in all the links, but I'll get there, promise.

I normally consult the OED for my definitions but I don't think we have it anymore, so my trust Collins says "writ ordering a prisoner to be brought before a court", so I think it must be a mix of the two, which is pretty much what you have.

Yeah I saw about the H2G2 University on my travels a few days ago (I wouldn't mind having one of the official badges on my space) but it was a bit unclear as to how different it was to the normal process. Thanks for the heads up about the editors etc. I'll give it a think but I have lots of free time at the moment (no school, no job, inter-acadamia you might say, or just lazy) so I dunno if that'll be much of a problem to me.

Part 1 is hunky dory, I'll look through Part 2 once you've done all the links, that was just a brief one. Thanks muchly.

Basically the deal with the University is that when series of entries go through Peer Review, they can get broken up - different Scouts will recommend them at different times, and so different Sub-editors will be subbing them. Since I fought to get your Anglo-Irish entries recommended and then to sub them myself, I was able to keep them all together and ensure they stayed inter-linked and all. But that's not always the case and that's what the University's for. It allows the author(s) of a project to stay with it the entire time and keep it together. For an example of what the University can do, you might want to check out Master B's 'We Didn't Start the Fire' entries: A2700488. Those are often lauded as a prime example of the University's capabilities.

Part II is completely complete and at A4454967, just in case I didn't post that link above. If you could look through it before I send it off to the Italics, I'd be much obliged.

BTW, I was having a read through your PS intro. You know you can add someone to your friends list by going to their Personal Space and clicking 'Add to Friends', don't you?

Part III is now edited and at A4454985. A quick look at that would be appreciated as well.

BTW, while you're at it you may want to check some of the links in Part II. I think I may have screwed up the GML (and the links might be broken), and you may just happen to get to the entry before I do, as I won't be able to look at it until around this time tomorrow.

Checked all the Part II links and they're working fine, gona go on to check the content now.

Can we changed the Famine header just to 1845 so that it goes with the rest that only name the beginning year, I like things to be uniformed and the others did not necessarily have a set finish date so I just settled with the beginning.

Footnote 5 doesn't read well, I dunno if this was me or you. Maybe: Splitting his party, after which he resigned and dissolved parliament; the Conservatives would not win a General Election until 1874 under Disraeli.

Under the Young Ireland header it says Duffy and Davies published the paper in 142, think that should be 1842. Also how come there's an umlout in re-emerged before the tenth footnote?

Another booboo of mine, under Gladstone's Mission it says that the Liberals were an amalgam of Whigs, Liberals and non-conformists; replace Liberals with Radicals.

The opening description of Michael Davitt under 1879 - The Land League stops prematurely, its a big bundled sentence so I don't know what to do with it but I thought you might wanna have a look.

Under the next section, The Land War, you've put that the leaders deplored the boycotting technique. They implored that technique but did not support, officially at least, the violent tactics come after in the analysis.

In Gladstone's Second Land Act you made the 3/4 fit the line more but 2/3 that preludes hasn't shrunk into the space, wondering if you could do anything about that or the 3/4 just happened that way. Later on in that section you've reworded saying the act had so much litigation it 'delayed the enaction of the Act' but what I meant to say was that when the Land Court process was underway, looking at fair rents etc. there was so much litigation THEY had to undergo in each case it was a long process; it wasn't the legislation itself which had a lot of beaurocracy, it was the process it put upon the courts.

1884 - Home Rule Era, I meant "Gladstone retired the party" not from the party as you assumed, maybe I should have been clearer: he dissolved Parliament and retired his party from power, giving the power to a minority ministry under Tory, Lord Salisbury. He'd only just come out of retirement in 1778, he wasn't going to do it again so soon :p.

Thanks for all the editing you've done, I didn't realise 'til I checked something against the draft entry how you've changed the syntax to be much clearer, my main weakness is convuluted sentences, bet they must be hell to edit, cheers. Took me about 50 minutes or more just to read and make those notes, editing must be a bitch, I'll do the third one sometime later, need to catch up on The Ashes at the mo.

I've made the textual changes you suggested.

There's an umlaut in reëmerged because it belongs there. If you didn't have one, you wouldn't know to pronounce the two 'e's separately. I suppose you could say re-emerged if you wanted, but I just thing reëmerged looks so much cooler. But you can make the final decision on that one.

I don't really see what's wrong with the description of Michael Davitt - perhaps you could explain how you would like it to sound?

I changed the 3/4 fraction to the way you'd done the 2/3, instead of using the special character code '¾'. There are only special character codes for 1/4, 1/2 and 3/4.

Thanks for clarifying on 'retired the party'. I'm American, so I'm not always familiar with the terms of British politics.

The editing really isn't all that difficult. I've been doing this for a while, you know. You've written a great piece and that's what makes it cool. Do let me know what you think of the above points of inquiry.

I didn't know that was an accepted use of the umlaut, I've only ever seen it in German words to be honest and yes it does look much cooler than a standard hyphenated word.

The Michael Davitt sentence doesn't go anywhere "Michael Davitt of County Mayo, who had...and then was gaoled" the post-Mayo comma makes it a subclause but its so long that you rightly don't keep the sentence going. However, the subclause is just a description, it wud normaly be something like "Michael Davitt, of County Mayo, held a meeting" or something, the sentence as it is doesn't go anywhere. Maybe "Michael Davitt, of County Mayo, was a key figure who had been evicted..." then carry on like normal.

I did like the way the 3/4 fit in with the line, shame it only works with those select few; you can change it if you want to plus you've put a semi-colon then a comma after it instead of just the full stop that was there before.

Yeah the retired the party thing is a bit archaic in British politics, this was a time before MPs were paid so they were doing it because they wanted to and if they didn't want to because of whatever reason, they'd retire, dissolve Parliament and ask the Queen to invite the Opposition to form a caretaker party. It happened a lot in the 19th Century which is why you get people in power without a majority for a year or two; wouldn't happen now though as there would be too much press which is why you wouldn't know of it, I can see why you made the mistake.

God we've conceded over 200 runs in the Ashes 2nd innings to just 3 wickets, thankfully we pulled off another 2 wickets in succession so we're half way thru, finishes in half an hour though then I'll look into Part III if I can tear myself away from my book.

Part III:

First para: "Divisions in belief" (change to ideology, flows better if u please)

Under Sinn Féin para: "a extreme" an extreme
I think I left the end of that paragraph a bit ambiguous too. Unless you think it isn't maybe put '...Parnellism and the rise in demand for nothing but complete independence.' eek, not so dynamic but I don't know if I'm clear enough as it is, your choice.

Ach, friends round, I'm gonna go and finish this later on tonight or in the morning.

I've made all these changes.

So is Part II completely finished now? If I can have your confirmation that it is, I will go ahead and send it back to the Editors.

What are you reading?

Part II still needs two bits editing: Under Second Land Act after 3/4 it has "3/4;," shud it not just be one punctuation? And also the bit bout litigation delaying the enaction of the act, it didn't delay the enaction of the act, it delayed court process when they reviewed unfair rent prices - too much beauracracy. I think I should re-write it 'cos I'm not too clear there: Also there was a court set up to review unfair rent prices, however so much litigation and beauracracy inherent in the process slowed down the court process. Still, the Land Courts....

Now Part III:

Under 1910: General Election, its a fair accompli, no 't' at the end.

1912: Solemn League, "headed the meeting of 100,000 Ulstermen marching past Opposition leader" marched past doesn't go in the context. Time is an illusion, but not in the English language :p (I really should proof-read my own work in the future)

1913: UVF, there's a full stop then a lower case letter, think the full stop is meant to be a comma. Must be where I had etc. put there before, you'd taken out the words but not the abbreviation stop

1918: After The War, at the end you say "With the 26 Unionist seats they could claim to be the Irish majority" it reads poorly, maybe change it to "With their only being 26 Unionist seats..."

Yep that's my take on minor adjustments. I'll have a read again once you've done those, and the brief ones to part II and give you the all clear :D

I'm reading Past Mortem by Ben Elton, its a murder mystery based around FriendsReuinited.com with the usual satire and close social commentary Elton always uses, in this he can do it across the ages 'cos its about the past and present.

Great, thanks for that. It's a good thing there's two people reading the entry - when I do things without the author's input I'm probably going to miss stuff.

For the bit about the 26 Unionist seats, I changed it to 'Since there were only 26 Unionist seats...' which I thought read better.

Enjoy the book - sounds good!