hi effers yeah its pretty shocking and awful, huh at first i didnt want to believe all those folks would do that so i went reading some backlogs which is why i am late outa bed this morning and late for an appointment and i have learned alot which i will be glad to share when i get back but for now... initially, as you know, i was enraged! and remained so as i plowed thru the detritus left behind but then as i got deeper into the threads a sense of wolfden's gentle patient character emerged and i found my self tearing up and finally weeping at each little jab from those people there are correlations of multiposts coinciding with campaigns of harassment either one person would come in all nicey nicey and then turn ugly or a whole group its horrific and here and there you can actually see him controlling himself mentions of deep breathing and affirmations of hope, courage and perserverence i started at the last page of his message list http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/brunel/F2095978 at the earliest last posting and worked forwards his ordeal in my opinion is likened to the stations of the cross (catholic) there are quite a few interesting things in there too links to conversation threads no longer on his ps warnings from the eds to others about bullying him and an oddness of some posters getting away with murder and 'wolfden chat' is such a shining example of how he did adjust to h2g2 http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/brunel/F2095978?thread=866560 that all happened 5 years ago and one might say its all taken care of now but its not it still goes on a year after he was ousted i i was a newbie on here and i was attacked by one of the main bullies anyway... i am kinda letting it all sink in for a while before i reply to anything else its all so much and needs to be thought about because its true you are right this type of behavior needs to be eradicated from hootoo if it is going to be able to move on to noohootoo gotta go back later breath in breath out