h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

....about the labelling.

But I think it's even more complicated than that. For example, you could have a man who is sexually attracted to men but who doen't have sex with them (eg a celibate homosexual priest). Then there's the difference between the 'Oh yes, how pretty' and the 'Phwoarr' factors.

For what it matters, I:
Definitely feel the "phwoarr" with women, and enjoy sex with them.
Can admire masculine beauty, but don't feel the phwoarr.
Could theoretically conceive of enjoying the sex part of sex with a man (I imagine those big sticky-out things could be fun to play with) - but have no desire for other forms of intimacy with men so would never get past first base.
I don't enjoy masculine company or masculine pursuits.

So...yes...a simple label won't do.

>> I imagine those big sticky-out things could be fun to play with



Q: If you have a large green ball in your left hand, and a large green ball in your right hand, what have you got?

A: The undivided attention of the Jolly Green Giant!



Just been freewheeling some other ideas. What about people who sleep with transsexuals?

Not all ftm transsexuals go on to have a phalloplasty, because the process is complicated and ultimately not very convincing for anyone. So is a woman who sleeps with an ftm transsexual who has not had a phalloplasty straight, or bi, or what?

Is she even a woman who has sex with a man, or a woman who has sex with a woman?

If an mtf transsexual stays in a sexual relationship with his former (straight) partner, does his partner suddenly become a lesbian?

Most of the time labels are useful for other people. People forget to be curious about something that has been pigeonholed for them.

Ben

And we haven't even touched on hermaphrodites with female chromosome but male external genitalia...and vice versa. Hmmm. What if an internally male person with female genitalia fancied men but slept with women?

Ah, 'tis a complex and wonderful world!

Have you read 'Middlesex' by Jeffry Eugenides?

It is a wonderful world. I personally see it in fairly simple terms though!

Middlesex? Nope, but it sounds as if I should.

B

A book I took so long to get into that by the time I was into it the library wanted it back..

I think one of the most important lessons I have learnt in life so far, has been that the answwer to 'What am I' is 'I am Me' wihtout any futher explanation,

Oh and what to do if someone had an anaphaylatic reaction in front of you is also an incredibly useful lesson to learn.

It's a good book. Same guy that wrote The Virgin Suicides.

Oxters: So you're from Glasgow, then? Interesting.

>> what to do if someone had an anaphaylatic reaction in front of you is also an incredibly useful lesson to learn.

Do women who are allergic to nuts have to avoid oral sex, then?



I am learning to use lables which don't accurately define a situation because it is quicker and easier and less disturbing to others than going into the sweaty details.

B

>> Oxters: So you're from Glasgow, then? Interesting.

But misleading. I worked there for a while, and loved the place, the people and the language.

B

It's a bit like when you say you're a vegetarian but still end up having to specify in detail about cheese, eggs, fish and white meat. I mean...since when were chickens vegetables? (For some 'vegetarian' seems to mean 'I want to get some attention by putting you out ever so slightly')

Where in Glasgow, then? Let me guess...either the West End or Shawlands

I think they say 'oxsters' all over Scotland and Ireland, by the way. Seamus Heaney uses the word in a poem, and I once heard Terry Wogan say it.

Yeah, I think it is a celtic word. They dont seem to use it on the East Coast, or maybe they don't admit to having them in the first place!

I live on Great Western Road, just up from Clatty Patty's. About a block from Byres Road.

Great place. Good times.

B

...lived...



B

Ah...Otago Street way, then.

About half way between Otago St and Byres Road, on the opposite side. A long stone's throw from Oddbins.

So do you live in Glasgow? Or just know it well?

B

Same side as IJ Mellis cheesemongers, then. A well manky shop. I love it!

Yes, I'm in Glasgow. I lived in Shawlands for a short time, then in Pollokshields for ages...which I really miss. Wonderful community. Great Asian shops. Now I'm in the soulless suburban wastes of Clarkston.

Did you ever go into that ethnic crafts store on Gt W. Rd - the one run by the creepy guy that who leered at women? He used to sell two different kinds of little lacquered boxes. The cheap ones and the expensive ones were identical...but the 'special' ones contained a useful free gift

S**t I missed that one - I was there in 99. I did get a nice Buddha in Evolution though. I miss Glasgow!

Enough nostagia. Shall we talk about sex?

B

Ooh! Saucy wee besom!

I must admit, I was (ahem!) intrigued by your shaving and french knickers comment on another board

Do they have to be French?





*hides*

Yes, actually. There needs to be some freedom of movement. Normal knickers just sit up close and personal, and don't move in the same way.

So now you know!



B

Thank you for educating me in ladies underwear.

Always a pleasure, Z. Always a pleasure!

B