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The Willem Love Collective Started conversation Jan 12, 2002
Hi Monsy! I don't know you that well ... only from the thread where we discuss the assault on Marijke. Like I said there, my sister's name is Maryke (it's the same name, pronounced the same just spelt differently) and that has given your account special poignancy for me ... reminding me, it could have been my own sister who had been assaulted. It could happen to anybody. I really think we need to do something about the violence in our world. I think that we need a major change at the grassroots level ... changing the way we think, and our attitudes towards each other.
That is a rather long intro for what I am doing here today ... here on h2g2 a bunch of us have started a community-building initiative along these lines, trying to improve goodwill between people on the site. So, without further ado, let me get to it: You Are Loved, Monsy!!! You are a wonderful, unique, beautiful, interesting and important person in the Universe! There are so many people who love you! Just check here on h2g2 how many people responded positively to your messages concerning Marijke, how many of them offered their help and support! So always remember that ... always remember that there are many good people in the world, many people who love you, many people who are willing to love you, who *would* love you if they got to know you better, many people who would be willing to give you help if you should need it! It is also clear that you, too, have a lot of love in you, for your daughters and husband and other loved ones, and other people too. When you are ever feeling down, disheartened, remember this message, and be happy again about all the love that you have, the love that you get, the love that you give! I know you treasure the people who are close to you ... still remember that every now and then to tell them again that you love them!! Remember always that love is stronger than hate. And never feel alone. And when you ever need help, just ask, and peiople will!
The Willem Love Collective (Click on the name above to visit our pages) exists to be an Oasis of Love, Peace, Kindness, Friendship and Positivity here on h2g2. If you ever need even more frienship and support than you get right now, please drop by our pages! Somebody will be close at hand to help out. Or, if you feel you could, maybe contribute to some of the inspiring words there, or to some of our projects! This is just one of them ... sea's Reverse Wowbagger (reggabwoW) project, which aims to bring an individual message of love to every single h2g2 researcher. Please tell us if you like what we're doing! And if you did, please smile, and infect somebody else, somewhere, with love, happiness and peace as well!
We Love You, Monsy!
Willem, for the WLC
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msmonsy Posted Jan 12, 2002
( they need a smiley that cries with a smile for happy tears)
thank-you so much for that message. i was having a rather tough day today and this message helped chear me up a great deal
Monsy
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Willem Posted Jan 14, 2002
It's really a pleasure Monsy! Drop by our pages whenever you again need cheering up!
Willem
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msmonsy Posted Feb 4, 2002
accepts and holds breath again until next monday.
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nerves are close to shot on my end, can't wait for the end of this road. it is nice to have friendly messages to come home to though, does help more than i think anyone knows
Monsy
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the Shee Posted Feb 5, 2002
It's almost over, right? I mean, as "over" as it ever can be... *sigh* Things have to get better.
*wishes health, happiness, peace, and all those other needed things to Monsy, Marijke, and everyone else*
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msmonsy Posted Feb 5, 2002
not sure about almost over...just had the first court date yesterday and it ended up being changed. but this is still not bad because it does at least mean that progress has begun .
Monsy
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the Shee Posted Feb 6, 2002
Well, everything will pass... (care of George Harrison--love that man ) I hope that this is the beginning of the end for ya'll... Usually that's a bad expression, but not this time. I'm going to repeat it, seeing as the last message came three weeks ago from a now-nonexistent persona --you are loved.
*hugs and hopes that everything will go as planned*
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msmonsy Posted Feb 9, 2002
why did he do that? because of something bad or just for a break?like i said, been a bit out of the loop lately.
Monsy
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the Shee Posted Feb 10, 2002
*shrugs*
I don't know, really.. If he thinks that that would be best for him, then I support it all the way, though.
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Willem Posted Feb 10, 2002
Hi - I have not left totally! I still read here and answer if there's something very important that needs to be answered.
Monsy, Shee already knows this - I suffer from a mental illness called paranoid schizophrenia. It is potentially deadly. I have it under control at the moment by medication and psychotherapy, but still things can become extremely bad for me. I don't tolerate stress in the same way as 'normal' people do. Stressful situations sometimes drive me dangerously insane. When driven over the edge I either injure myself - usually by cutting myself with a knife - or I start planning to commit suicide. So far I only actually went forwards into a serious attempt twice. I really don't want there to be a third time.
I have cut back my h2g2ing because I feel extremely unsafe here. There are people here who enjoy ridiculing and taunting mentally ill, including suicidal, people, and these people (the taunters/ridiculers) appear to operate with the blessing and support of the 'editors'. My paranoia is being triggered to extreme levels by some of the latest happenings here. With me paranoia usually progress directly into suicidalness. On more than one occasion have I started seriously planning my next suicide attempt, as a result of provocation encountered here. That is not good for me at all.
The trouble is, I really *like* h2g2 and many of the people here.
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msmonsy Posted Feb 10, 2002
william too
not to go into too much detail just to say i do understand and know what you go through along with the difficulty in finding people who understand. you take care of yourself and as diffucult as it is remember that those people who find pleasure in making fun of mental illness are small and insignificant. i know, i know...doesn't help due to the inability to control the feelings but i had to say it anyway.
oh yea, and a ...don't know what it is about the funny blue loo brushes but they seem to work wonders
Monsy
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msmonsy Posted Feb 11, 2002
we just returned from our court date today. things went well. his attorney asked that we allow him to be charged as a youthful offender with a 3 year sentence. marijke was satisfied with that. i wish more would be done but am not going to push my feelings on her. i spoke with both the DA and investigator who filled me in on my questions and worries about her accepting this. they said that he will serve 3 years in prison and the rest of the 15 split 3 would be spent on probation. during this time he is not allowed to contact marijke in any form and if he does he breaks his probation and will spend the rest of his sentence behind bars. since he was already on probation for robbery in another county he will actually be spending more than the 3 years in prison. he has to serve his time for the probation violation on the other charge as well.
anyway, the judge said that there would be a 'formal' thing on april 4th where he would be given his sentence and begin his time. marijke has a two page form she has to fill out stating everything we've already stated but it also has a section on it where she gives her opinion on what his punishment should be. since she already told the judge she was ok with what was offered today it is all just a formality.
as i said, i'd like to see more but marijke isn't up for a full trial and since she is ok with this i won't push her to go for more. afterall, this is about her best interests. i'm hoping that after 3 years he won't be a problem for us anymore.
Monsy
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Willem Posted Feb 12, 2002
Hi Monsy and Shee, and thanks! I'll spend some time in this conversation for a while. I feel safe in this particular forum, with you being here, and with our discussion being as sensitive as it is think any idiot will easily be able to come in and ruin it without seeming exceedingly insensitive and idiotic. But, there are people like that, even here on h2g2 ... And the thing is, I don't really consider *any* person to be small and insignificant. I have a very, very high opinion of human nature and potential. I believe that human beings are *all* worthy of respect. Even that guy who threatened and assaulted Marijke and her sister. I believe even that guy was made in the image of God, and has an immortal soul, and has within him the divine spark and the potential to be good and godly. Why he went bad may be because of his circumstances, or because of his own choice, but I believe he can still change for the better. Maybe though he needs to spend some time in jail, and maybe he can change his ways within his lifetime, or maybe even after this life he'll have to spend time in some kind of hell or other, or maybe he'll be reincarnated as a cockroach or a politician or a similar lowly lifeform, maybe he'll have to spend several lifetimes working up again, but there's always hope and maybe after an infinity of lifetimes he'll be able to realise and fully express his divine nature. But for now, though we reject his behaviour, and punish him and try to correct him, we still need to respect him for what he is, down deep, and for what he can still become.
So basically, I respect everybody, even people who are disrespectful. If people do stupid things it affects me very badly because I care about them and want them not to do stupid things, not to me, nor to anybody else, including themselves.
But anyways ... thanks for the loo brush and I hope everything goes well for you and Marijke, I hope that guy doesn't harm or bother you or Marijke or anybody ever again - either because he turned good, or because of him being prevented from harming people in whatever way is appropriate.
Willem
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the Shee Posted Feb 13, 2002
Politicians? *doesn't know whether to laugh or not*
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