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IMHO, this is all blowing up slightly out of hand

I'm sure you agree

Everyones being sensitive, and defending each other to the death

I know in a way you already have, but maybe (just maybe- I've no idea if it will actually help) if you went to Cals space and left him an apology (not nessarily for having said anything- just for upsetting him I mean) maybe we can make peace

I know- Dan will defend you til the last saying you dont need to. But please- can you explain to him it isnt helping? Hes just making Cal get his back up more by trying to pull from him that you havent done anything wrong. I'm not saying you necessarily have- but you know you've upset him and I just want this to end. Its tiring. And I know you didnt mean to but Cal really went into one about him, and I just want him to calm down and be happy again

so please, if you could try i'd be very gratefully

thankyou very much

-Jack

Hi Jack.

Thanks for dropping by.

I've been thinking of dropping a post to Cal, but the reason I haven't done that is that I was afraid that no matter what I say, he'll get even more mad at me.

On that 'Meh' thread that GB linked to (I've been reading all this, even though I haven't stepped in; Dan specifically asked me not to), when Beck asked him if he tried talking to me, he said:
>>I 've no intention of talking to her, she'll only belittle me again in some way, go off on one then get NC involved and I'm upset enough as it is with her<<

You know me better than that. You know I'd never be like that.
I never meant to belittle anyone in the first place. I was just upset myself, because of the way this has been turned into a 'misery contest' sort of thing. It's all been blown way out of proportion.

I have all sorts of comments on this, but I don't think they'll do anyone any good. Just flame up the argument, which is the last thing I want.
I just want it to end, too.

If you think going to Cal and apologising will make him calm down, and end this situation, then I will.
Will it help, though? He really seems to dislike me, from what I've read. I'm afraid that whatever I say to him, he'll take it the wrong way.

Help me out here, alright?


I really have to go right now. My wallet was stolen on Friday, and I have a whole load of cards to replace.
Hope to talk to you later!

I have no idea whether it will help or not

I would just like to try it, basically

I'm hoping if you word the apology carefully and perhaps dont tyr to explain or say anything that might take away from it for him, it might help

nothing I say can calm him down right now or make him happy again

so I'm hoping an apology from you might. To be honest, I'm mad enough that hes been upset like this as it is. And I've not stepped in before because I dont want to inflame things further

thanks

-Jack

Okay, got some minutes before class... so much running around, with all these lost cards!

Anyway, I don't know if you were saying you were mad with Cal or with me. But I'm willing to apologise, if it might make things better. I _am_ sorry for starting this whole thing, after all.


You think that would be alright to say? That I'm sorry for having started this, and that it's been blown out of proportion, and made everyone upset?
Or would he take it the wrong way?
I don't know him as well as you do. I hardly know him at all, in fact. And he doesn't really know me too, I guess, because he seems to have my personality all wrong...
So I just don't know what to do. I just want to make things better somehow. I don't want people to be mad at each other anymore.
I just want this to be over.

Let me know what you think will be an inoffensive phrasing, and I'll post an apology when I'm back home tonight.
I hope that'll help.

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It was never a misery contest, as beck has already pointed out I was trying to say how lucky you Dan, beck and Ben are to have each other, compared to some e.g me and Jack.

As I tried to say before you all have the possiblity of spending a lifetime together Jack and I do not!

I do feel I'm wasting my breath here as you are more than likely going to accuse me of belittling you all over again.

As I said I don't like your attitude of 'I'm big, you're small, I'm right you're wrong'

Ah


This is not exactly turning out the way I had hoped

Right, thats it I'm going to ignore this and pretend it never happened til it goes away

I thought you were sleeping *frowns*

No, not really.

I have a class in 15 minutes, so can't say all I want to, so I'm hoping I'm not saying the wrong thing again...
Probably shouldn't have checked online, because now that's all I'll be able to think about till I come back tonight, wondering id I managed to screw everything up again even more than before, or if maybe somehow it will be okay eventually. But, I did, and now I have to say something, and, well, here's to hoping.



Cal, listen, I'm sorry for the way everything is going. I don't know what I've done to make you dislike me so much. Where have I ever shown a condescending attitude like that? Where have I ever said something as an absolute, without saying it was only an opinion, without 'maybe'-ing and 'perhaps'-ing it, without taking into consideration that I could be wrong?
When have I ever looked down on anyone? Jack, you at least know me, even if Cal doesn't. You know how insecure I am. You know the only person I ever look down upon is myself.
I have never meant to sound belittling. I have never meant to say your situation was better than mine. I wouldn't dream of saying that. I can't even imagine what you two are going through.

I didn't read what you said as a 'see how lucky you are'. I misunderstood. I was hurt, and got on the defensive. I'm sorry.

Then you misunderstood what I said, and got on the defensive.

Then everything went to hell.


I don't really know what else to say. And I have to go to class, now.

I'm just--- *sigh*

I shouldn't have started any of that.
And I just want it to end.

Please, let's end this.

you did both of those things first in the MotMV thread and then again in here with your 'misery contest@ comment, do you really think I am that small minded?

Jesus christ you are completely unbelieveable

I have posted on the other thread, as well, but it seems wrong to leave this one without a reply.


I don't know if I can convince you that this was all a misunderstanding. I'm just hoping that maybe this time around you will accept my apologies.

Because I really am sorry for everything that happened. I really didn't mean to make you hurt and upset that way. And I really have been just trying to untangle things, afterwards, not trying to spite you or anyone else.

We used to be on friendly terms. I don't know what went wrong, but I would like to be again, if that's at all possible for you.

I'm sorry.

Jack has been upset the entire Day because Dan mentioned him again in that thread, (regarding the email Jack sent you)even though Jack had asked him not to drag him into things.

That was made worse by yourself because you posted part of a private email here on site.

Please when you are asked to do something could you show a little respect for Jack by doing as Jack has asked?

Please leave us both alone, Jack is sick and I would prefer it if you didn't cause him anymore upset.

Thankyou

Okay.

Sorry about this. Dan and I only brought Jack up again because Dax did. And I thought since the email was to me, and about Dan, and not discussing anything private, it'd be okay to post it.
I was wrong, and I'm sorry to hear I've upset you two again. I'll leave you alone.

you need to look again, dax was replying to Dan who had already once again mentioned Jack.


Dan was answering a post of GB's