h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

hello manymom welcome to hootoo.. i'm a relative newbie myself... i also have 3 kids with longish gaps... 3 girls born 1980, 1982 and 1997.. i also have a granddaughter to the eldest girl born 1999...

i'm guessing you are american...mom as oppossed to mum.. i am welsh live in the capital city all my life....

anyway hope you have fun looking around hootoo byeeee

hello, flakey lady. yes, i am american. my eldest son also has a child. i became grandma in 1996. it' a fun adventure.
being a mom to teenagers is different now, in comparison to adolescence with my other sons. granted, each person is unique, but the options given to kids on a daily basis are increased. my youngest has had to mature much faster because he has to be aware of society's issues. that is not necessarily a bad thing.
enuff said. i tend to chatter on.
thanx for the greeting. always glad to hear other's input. it is amazing what i can learn when i disengage my mouth and use only my ears!

the very mention of teenagers makes me shiver my older 2 girls both had their horrible rebellion times....other people say girls are very hard.. worse than boys.. but since i never had a son i can't compare....

my little one is still my baby.. my husband wanted me to have another one and i did intend to...but ihad to keep my part time job and i was always so run down i knew my health wasn't good enough to have another pregnancy....few years back discovered i was type 2 diabetic..so no more babies

with all the new advances in science.. surely they'll be able to enable men to carry babies...problem solved

i have been told my entire life that girls are harder to raise. i remember what i was like, so i can believe it.
i had to have a radical hysterectomy the day after my 40th birthday, so no more babies from this body. if i could afford more kids, i would have loved to have more.
actually, my youngest son who is now 14years old is easy to deal with and live with. we have a really neat relationship. parenting can be fun. much of the time it is quite tolerable. once in a blue moon, we lock horns, so to speak, we talk the issues through and go from there.
do you recommend any sites,etc from h2g2?
the people's user names are so creative. i would be interested in hearing how these names were selected.

hello again.. and concerning girls rebellions, we have a family curse that is meted out to us rebels...my gran issued it to me...it went like this..."one day you'll have a daughter and i can guarantee she'll be even worse to you than you've been to me...oh yes, mark my words"...

and there i was cursed...true enough my eldest was even worse to me, so i issued her with the family curse, and with my 6 yr old grand daughter its all set to come true.. even now at 6 she is extremly rebellious.. only the other day she was in a sulk because my daughter refused her something or other... so when my daughter walked past she deliberately tried to trip her up!!!

shock horror...i was very concerned that she might have had a very nasty accident.. luckily she only stumbled..but good grief its worrying...probably didn't help that i called her a 'damien' and her daddy was all protective... but he wouldn't be so pleased if his wifes head had gone thru a window pane or god forbid his precious fish tank..

anyway enough of my family curse...just browse arounf hootoo and see if you like anything.. some sites will fizzle and burn... others you may not feel you 'gel' with the other posters and then some you will...just jump into a conversation that interests you... sort of suck it and see..

i like movies so i often check out the what movie have you just seen.. the penis thread gets a lot of atention, i'm often on it and while it sounds disgusting mostly its not.. well depends on how you feel about some open talk on sex etc...just jump in... us nice ones should take notice of a new person and respond until you become a regular...

i always heard that numbers of daughters coincides with your degree of badness as a child. i'm living proof that that cannot be true. i never got into trouble only because i never got caught. my youngest son, though, until he was 5 yrs old, i could barely tolerate him. i should have had an idea when he was born on Labor Day. then, he never slept the night thru until he was almost one and one half years old. it wasn't until i discovered sleepytime tea that he began sleeping all night. now it is impossible to wake him up!
it amazes me that damien's daddy has such blinders. my son is like that with my grandson. "my child can do nothing wrong yada yada yada" not one of my kids has been perfect. i love them anyway. if they were perfect then i would have to find something else to complain about.

they all have their faults thats for sure...my eldest was the best behaved baby though....until 6 months... the other 2 had terrible colic, screamed solidly for 4 months

my youngest has a different dad.. [my 2nd marriage] and he [foolish man] thinks HIS little angel won't go off the rails like the older ones.... well hes got a big surprise coming because she is a spoilt little madame...but a very loving caring girl.. still my baby.

so you having any joy at finding your way around? you have to lurk a lot but no one minds. well i have to go as its 11.20pm here..

good night from me even though its still only late afternoon with you

yes, i love my contributions to the world. my youngest is by my second marriage, also. i indulge him a little more than i did my first two, but now i can. *29son and*14son live with me. i have my *17painless birth son with me. *17son was a teen on the street in our old neighborhood. the boyz get along so well *17 bridges the gap for*14 and *29. we don't have alot but the guys and i are happy to have him in our lives, so we'll share what we have.he is our comic relief. my fellow sagitarian. we all give alot to keep this working. doesn't life take on so many facets? auntie, momma, sister, daughter, niece. each one comes with its own basic boundaries and to a certain degree, their own rules. each person and role is so precious and so important. life almost drove me crazy until i figured out that we each have our own reality, even living in the same house.
for now, i'll close. i would chatter on till your eyes get crossed. my remote doesn't have a mute button!
til then!!+=

sounds like one big happy family my eldest is married has her own house..middle lives with her grandmother because she can get away with far more nonsense plus she has a large rambling house... little one lives here of course along with the 2 dogs, 2 ferrets, 2 gerbils and tropical fish...

ferrets live in the shed as they smell so darn much much very amusing little characters...they are off to the vets monday to be castrated for them but for us as they'll smell less....we hope.

what state are you in? i've been to florida 4 times and going to NY in a few weeks.. its my middles present for graduating her degree.. she did her degree in bristol uni so lived away for the 3 years.

when i went to florida many years ago in 91 a lot of americans didn't understand where i come from...cardiff south wales.. but since then especially my last visit last year i found they mostly knew where wales was... as i am not exactly english but british...

when we come over on the plane we have to fill out a visa... we have to say we come from the united kingdom..not wales or england... and your immigration are the worst.... really surly and unwelcoming but as soon as you pass customs.. the american people are lovely

good thing about holidays in america...you speak english.... we are familiar with your food, and we generally like and accept each other

hey, f.m. great to hear from you. i am in illinois. it is the midwest. cornfields and soybean fields as far as the eye can see. i live in a town of around 100k but am readying to move to a village of 2k. it is where i grew up. taking my *14 and *17 back to the country with me. my mom is 76 and i think it is the ideal time to become reacquainted. she has always done for us; now we are hoping to reciprocate.
ferrets, fish, gerbils. dang, woman. you must be busy, busy.
i have never had the pleasure to travel oversees. my auntie used to raise !@%*( after she would pass thru customs.
i am pleased to hear that you find americans friendly. i think most probably are, but one bad apple can sure ruin it for alot.
i hope your jaunt to ny is enjoyable.
i must take off right now, but i will write more later

yes all these critters have sneaked up on me...personally i would only have one dog... but what can i do.... i do make sure my husband and daughter are responsible for them... sure i help with clearing after the dogs and preparing their food now and again.. but the ferrets are his altough i will go out and play with them now and again...

gerbils are the littluns pets, and easy enough don't smell either
i've always found americans fine to get on with.... some men over here make out they dislike all 'yanks' but thats because they are threatened by them in that we brit women love them....mostly we've grown up with american men in movies as our idols...robert redford, paul newman..

and now we have bruce willis, vin diesel, ron [the voice] perlman... brad pitt.... etc etc.. look up the drool thread

but we have given you...errr hugh grant....but lets not forget sean connery... and sean bean [always the baddie]

hope your move goes ok.. its always a stressful thing...but nice to be close to your mom my mum would be 70 if she'd lived.. but she died when i was 14...

what kind of weather do you get there in illinois....i'm guessing hot and dry but i don't really know much of the mid west... wales is very wet due to being very mountainous... the capital city cardiff where i live is close to the sea and kind of low set... we haven't had any real snow for many years.. climate has changed radically since i was a kid.

i can see the mountains though even from my bedroom window in the distance.....and these mountains bring us plenty of the wet stuff

bye for now or else i ramble on too much

sean connery. now he is a breed all by himself. his looks. his voice. he has it all, in my book. oh, johnny depp.he is second only to connery. now he is the cat's meow. can you believe that he is 40+ years old? redford, newman, oh, oh, oh, vin diesel. they are all eye candy. for youngsters, i like keanu reeves and brad pitt.
back to the 4 legged animals. we presently have no pets. recently we had to find our dog a new home. that was nearly 2 months ago and i still think of her daily. times are hard and she was an additional expense that my budget was struggling with. with moving and all, it is better that she has a new family that can afford to allow her the life of a good dog. she now has a large fenced in yard to run and two children ages 6 and 10 to hang with. they take her shopping at the pet store and lavish her with yummy treats and love. one of my fav's for a pet were my son's rats. they were actually quite fun. gross to look at but neat to mess with.
weather here is extreme. in the winter it gets bitterly cold and we tend to get a few feet of snow. spring and fall we have an occasional tornado. i've only been in one tornado, knock on wood. it was too scary.
summer time it tends to get quite hot and dry. each season has its own special beauty. autumn has the colors of leaves changing just as spring and summer have the beauty of flowers and plant life. snow is pretty, but i do not like the cold. it makes this aging body of mine ache. in my youth, snow was the best. this year we had a relatively mild summer. maybe 10 days over 100 degrees fahrenheit. i'm not sure about converting to celsius, but it was hot. and dry. lawns were rather brown this year. not our usual green.
no mountains here. just rolling hills and a great deal of flat land. enroute to florida once, the mountain roads scared me. i live next to the illinois river. soon i will be moving close to st. louis, mo. it has the mighty mississippi river. she is amazing. a good blend of majesty and power. the spring rains bring about flooding, but not usually severe. it seems about once every ten years or so that the rivers all burst their banks and wreak havoc.
i believe our move will be interesting. and a good thing. i enjoy the slow pace of rural living. violence is a rarity where we are heading, unlike here in peoria. hearing gunshots in the near distance has become so common for us. it is spooky. there is so much violence on a daily basis. i've got to get my family away from here before one of them becomes a statistic of violence. the economy has much to do with our nation's degree of random violence. poverty is so widespread. small towns, cities, you name it. most all have homeless. it is so expensive to feed and shelter that many people have to choose one or the other.
then there is the usa's drug problem. it is crippling the nation.
so many minds and lives wasted on a temporary high. it is sad, really.
my mother says we are experiencing an economic depression. she was born in 1929, just prior to the stock market crash. the Great Depression, they called it. vast, yes, but there was no greatness in it other than the immense suffering during it.
enuff said for now. keep loving the children. hope life is peaceful for you. until the next time...

it's sunday. a sunny one, at that.
had my pot of coffee and i'm getting ready to do some housework.
some of these conversations are so funny. i'll start reading and next thing i know, two hours have passed. was surprised to see you in the conversation about women's views of the penis. until i read your personal space. you like sex. i used to, possibly still would if i had a steady freddie. maybe. maybe not.
i have something going on with my muscles that causes much cramping. cooler weather sucks big time. i choose not to have a serious and sexual relationship with a guy until i can devote more energy to it. when the time comes, i hope men are still interested. if not, well, i'll just have to see what happens.
i'm thankful to be on this side of the sod.

hi... so you found the penis thread facinating thread i've been a devotee for a few months.... but its harmless enough.. and they all know i have a hubby who loves me to pieces

i'm really lucky to have found love a 2nd time we've been together 10 yrs now.

you can hear gunshot going off?? thats wild...and i thought my city was getting rough.. that must be so frightening, don't blame you for getting the hell out............ i've seen a lot of changes here though... the yobbos on the street corner...recently a local corner shop finally admitted defeat and closed... the reasons... well 1. the superstore i work at squeezed the custom but 2. the thugs hanging around scaring the customers and harassing the shop keepers... so we lose a useful shop in the middle of the community, and the reason they can't get a pint of milk or cigarettes quick anymore is down to them..

guns are still unusual around here though...but in 10yrs who knows..
we live in an estate built purposefully to be rented out as oppossed to those who could afford to buy...estates like ours are called council estates, although 20 yrs ago they finally gave council house tenants the right to buy their rented homes.. seeing as the upkeep and repairs were a huge burden....

so we were able to buy our home for a fraction of a private price... and in our street of say 40 houses only about 3 are still owned by the council... we are lucky to have a large garden too as we are the corner house, so our dogs have a fenced off area to run about in.. the rest of the garden is kept for the kids, swings and play shed...

maybe when you get resettled you can date again, we can give you lots of tips from the penis thread..seriously tsarina is beginning to date again we are all her advisers but get yourself nice and setled first.. in the meantime a little does wonders but don't overdo like i did.. as i am overweight and diabetic

byyeee for now

yes, gunshots. two neighbors have been shot this summer. two other murders within 10 blox of our apt this summer. my friend six houses down was robbed at gunpoint and beat up pretty bad within the last two months. it is not cool. it's almost like we are getting desensitized to the violence. that is when people get careless, becuz it's always happened to others, not them. this hell whole had a seial killer that killed up to 14 people before he was caught last october. kill a black druggie or prostitute then it is overlooked a lot longer. if they were not the "dregs of society" then it would have been more urgent. the killer has been charged with 2 murders which he has plead guilty to, but the courts have refused to accept his plea. he has to confer with a lawyer. the remaining victims, which he also admits killing, have to be confirmed thru dna becuz he dismembered and burned the others. bone fragments are being analyzed to identify them. as with most serial killers, he is a middle-aged white male. his neighbors referred to him as Mr Digger because he was always digging holes in the yard and moving dirt and such with a wheel barrow. he was said to often have fires on the property. neighbors thought he was burning tree leaves and yard waste. if his last victim had not escaped and went to police, he'd probably still be moving dirt around. that is crazy *&^%#!. i call this sodom and gomorrah of the midwest. *14 and i have lived here for almost 8 years. it has spiraled out of control in the last 2 years.

you are so lucky to have rediscovered love with another. i have a penis with a friend attached, if i am so inclined. i've got too much going on to try to have an sexual and emotional relationship with anyone right now. marriage *1 lasted 8 years and *2 lasted between 9 and 10 years. i don't give up easily, but i had to throw in the towel eventually. it literally came down to my sanity. the sense of failure as both a wife and mother was almost too much to deal with. i was suicidal, depressed, anxiety stricken. you name it. i have come back from the bowels of hell. i realize now that i am not wonderwoman( tits are too small) and i have learned to stand on my own, even though financially we are in a grave state, it could be much worse.

my ex snatched our son, then age 5, now *14, and hid him from me for 18 days. that was hell and we survived that. i had to go to court to finally see wtc. if i can survive that, then i have a great amount of personal strength. how can someone claim they love you and hide your child. no phone contact. nothing. he told wtc that i didn't want him anymore. dob. that is pure and simple. dob.
i have never felt pain that before and i wish noone ever had to feel it. i imagine that i am afraid of emotional pain now. i'm scared to take another chance. i have decided that i probably am not well-equipped enuff to maintain such. i guess i'm not marriage material, but i am ok with that.
i'm not crazy either. been there. done that. have a few of those tshirts! anyway, this gives me another way out of shaving my legs. i can smell like mentol/ camphor muscle rub when i put on my flannel nightgown and nobody is their to complain about it.
it's not so bad. i may be alone much of the time, but seldom do i yearn for a companion. get me drunk and it's a different story. if i drink more than 4-5 drinks then i get a strong urge for boom- boom. so i don't drink very often.
i'm 47 in december and had a radical hystectomy the day after i turned 40 so i don't have the hormone thing going on. i'm sure that makes a difference.
do you know the difference between an enzyme and a hormone?
they can make a hormone.
do you know how to make a hormone?



don't pay her.
on that note, goodnight
sorry about the rambling on.

hiya MM bloody hell sounds like one HELL of a district you live in.. and a serial killer too? we are tame in comparison...we have a convicted peodophile living 3 doors away [sleeping with his own daughter until at age 15 she blew the whistle on him,...he did 2 yrs stupid wife stood by him and there he still lives in all his shame... some neighbours speak to him but a lot more don't including us]

we have the druggies too.. in fact my ex was a druggie, i endured 14 yrs of him.... i could have killed the waster and got less time... seriously he was very bad for my self esteem... made me feel worthless..

hubby no 2 is a much better man anti drug [like me] hard worker good provider etc... i made sure that since buying the house i have also worked part time.. not to let him take all the burden...but like i said buying it was actually cheaper than renting

we've had hard times in this marriage but what brings us thru is that he actually does love me .. a lot[something the other never did] hes had one hell of a bad upbringing.. his mother isn't worth anything.. useless pathetic woman who allowed her brother to abuse her girls because he did it to her.. what sort of mother is that?? my husband hates her for it... hes the only one who gone to the police about it and although the younger sister verified the abuse unless they themselves take it further nothing can be done..

so it might seem like a no result.. but for my husband it was a good thing to do... he can sleep at night knowing he did his best.. needless to say hes disowned the bag of s**t family...so sadly our little girl has no grandmother [my parents been dead for yrs] but she us and 2 older sisters

if this marriage ever broke down [god forbid it doesn't] i wouldn't get married again... i think i'd use men just for their bodies... hell yes. by the way did i mention that hubby is a bit of a toyboy...hes 36 i'm 42 in 2 weeks.. never thought i'd end up with a younger guy... as generally i prefer older... but 10 yrs on we're still going strong.. and i do count my blessings... i still get insecure but he also worries about me abandoning him for another man...... as if?? i know where my breads buttered..[quaint olde english saying there]

bye for now

ohhh, cradle robber LOL i'm happy for you. you are indeed blessed. it sounds like your boytoy is also. if your youngest wants an internet granny, i'll step up. my grandson is soon to be 9yrs. having spent much of my adult life away from family, i'm big on family by choice, as our my sons. heck, *17 son is living proof. he's been with us for a year now.
yes, this is hell here. *29 is back home now. it is nice. i just wish *22 would be here. mother's day weekend this year, he broke ties with me. i would like him to keep up with rest of family, even if not me. when he was 14, i moved to a nearby city but he declined to move, instead he opted to live with his father. with joint custody agreement, i had to allow him that right. *22 now blames me for abandonment, because i never moved back to "his location". i cannot blame him for his feelings. it was a risk i took by moving. i can only hope that one day he will accept that i could not live there in peace. his dad bipolar druggie and youngest's dad alcoholic control freak. see? i cannot trust my judgement of male species. i am dysfunctional one. it is sad truth that each person has their own reality, because no two people see and remember things alike. if i had stayed there, i would have at minimum, been in loony bin, if not dead from suicidal ideations.
neither of those scenarios would have benefitted any of the kids.
i have tried throughout the years to get him to come live with me, but he wanted us to come live with him and his dad the bipolar one.
i may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but i'm no idiot either. if we couldn't work it out after 8+ years, there is no reason to believe that we could work it out.
i think it will be smarter for me buy stock in duracell batteries co. toys don't argue or demean. the only thing they require is new bateries!
until i get brave enuff for toys, i'll just have to call on Marathon Man. [my penis with the friend attached!] oh hell, i won't have him when i move to the boonies.[small town] i'll deal with that bridge when i come to it.
i tried to put court tv on to our serial killer, but they have not responded. let the dna evidence and grisly details come out in his trial and it will be all over in the press. ptown on the water was not bad when i initially moved here, but it is making up for lost time now in corruption, social and business.
with gw bush in power, corruption is now the norm here in the usa. every business he has ever run has gone under for mismanagement, so why put him in power? he's so yucky[i'm being nice] perhaps the puppet bush is actually a clone experiment gone awry! if i were his parents, i would opt for that explanation for his stupidity and general ineptitude. lol
do you think it an omen that the usa is getting inundated with natural disasters? i do. i know i say my prayers each day and try to live right. just in case...

now i feel better.
your hubby's ma sounds like she would live here in ptown! how can anyone allow such a thing to happen with any child, let alone their OWN?
my heart goes out to hubby. he did the right thing. uncle will get his. i firmly believe that what goes around, comes around. Golden Rule, eye for an eye, etc. his ma & her brother should be in the cell with our serial killer. throw away the cell key and let whatever happens happen. no loss on society's part. it annoys the hell out of me to hear people say that we need criminals so police will have a job. it's like saying we need liquor so alcoholics can survive happily. duh. if that isn't some messed up reasoning.
coffee and chocolate are my drugs. i'm trying to reduce tummy before winter sets in and i become immobilized so sweets are rare treats.
history of diabetes in my dad's family so i try to exercise moderation on most foods and drinks. i smoke cigarettes and that is a drug, too, so i guess i'm an addict. smoking was the worst habit that i can honestly say i took on. i enjoy aromatic tobacco from my cherrywood pipe, but i don't get it out often. it was a momento of a deceased friend from his wife. we'd get together once in awhile, smoke, and generally have a great bs session. then he passed. so i fire up and salute him every once in awhile. been doing that since 1993 when he passed. john was a historian and sherlock holmes fan so i have a pretty set ritual to toast him annually. that is coming up right after move. this year i'll be able to visit his gravesite whilst ritualizing. he would be thrilled. hell, he will probably be along enjoying it in the spirit form!
well, ladybug. i have taxed your eyes enuff for today. take care. until the next!

what day is your birthday?

hi de hi MM

yes aren't exes the worst....i had similar in that the eldest thought that by accepting me and new man it would show disloyalty to her father.. and didn't he play on it...

its not as if my new man broke us up i was single for over a year before i met him, and i divorced ex for his adultery.. so i had every right to make a new beginning for myself...

ex mother in law was very meddlesome too.. she actively treid to squeeze me out of the girls lives... i was trying my best to keep hormonal young girls on the straight and narrow, but she undermined me all the way.. where we should have worked together in the girls best interests...she was only trying to score points against me...

when middle girl was caught out smoking at age 14 i went to ex ma in law and asked that she give her no money at all as she was smoking... i said to buy her the items she needed but not to give her cash... reasonable enough i am the mother and 14 is too young to smoke by law... i was doing the right thing...2 days later found out she had bought more cigarettes.. and her nan had given her the money....

so thst makes her great in a 14yr olds mind... but what favours is she really doing for the child... all point scoring. my ex was also giving drugs to the eldest who he treated like a pal rather than a daughter...

later on when girls went off rails and i tried to get some control of them like imposing a reasonable time to come in.. like say midnight.. they weren't having any of it... they would go and stay at their nans and come home there whatever time they pleased.... still glad to say no interfering relatives with my youngest.. just me and her dad, and we agree pretty much about most things.

my husband had it bad, a whole family covering up for the pervert.. even the grandmother was in on it... when albert the pedophile used to lure one of his sisters upstairs to his room, my husband used to say to his grandmother.. but why is he taking tracy upstairs.. what does he want?? and she would threaten him and tell him to shut up..

a lot of his problems come from feeling helpless to prevent it he was a very angry young man when i met him a few years back he was put on anti depressants and its done him a world of good.. but also reporting the whole thing to the cops.. the family hated him for that they never had th guts to do anything.. they hate me more though because they know i gave him the strength to do it.

my birthday is the 3rd nov.. i should be seeing the statue of liberty on that same day when is your birthday?

better go now got to go to bed... ta ta for now

i think your ex is true scum of the earth. i hope relations improve between you and your daughters. a mother's love is irreplaceable. albert and co. absolutely should burn in hell. being brutalized sexually as a youngster, it really has messed up my life. my self- esteem was naught until the last 3-4 years. now i know that it was his problem, not that there was such a flaw in me that i deserved it. dod's
nov 3- you are a scorpio. as is my oldest son and my grandson.
i was born on the winter solstice. dec21, 1958. i'm looking at half a century soon enuff.
birthday in new york city would be awesome! have loads of fun.
you and your boytoy are truly blessed to have found love with each other.
will write more later. mother nature calls!