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Post 121

Effers;England.


You said I should use this thread so I am. I sort of understand more now...a bit. But I don't want to over affect you because you said you were upset about what happened last weekend.

To let you know how much I appreciate all the work you are doing behind the scenes. I'm *intelligent* so I can guess that. h2g2 is saved because of the work people like you are doing.

We know it's all still a bit raw at present.

No need to reply though.

All in good time.

But I wanted to send something good to you...but don't know how to say it.


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Post 122

kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website

Thanks Effers smiley - smiley


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Post 123

Effers;England.


I'm so glad you got that.

There's a lot of incredible cultural stuff going on at present here which has got very muddled up for me. I'm very sensitive to this stuff. I got things badly wrong about you last weekend. I kind of knew this thing to do with Murdoch was about to happen. I don't know how I knew it exactly.

Anyway good to be clear now about what's what.

And it's so nice you got the good thing.




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Post 124

Effers;England.


What is it exactly you are doing to do with noohootoo?

You don't have to go into huge detail but just a vague summary if you have the time and energy to tell me.

smiley - tea


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Post 125

Effers;England.


I've deliberately kept away from you because I felt you wouldn't want me around.

But I'd like you to be clear if you would?

I know about Taff now.

If you don't want anymore contact with me, could you tell me?

Lack of clarity about things is affecting me.

You know I'm not well. This will help. Please do that if you could I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks.


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Post 126

kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website

I'm good with us having contact smiley - ok I haven't been on hootoo much in the last week, had the flu and RL stuff to deal with.

I would be clear with you if I ever needed to stop having contact with you, I wouldn't just leave it hanging. But that hasn't been in my mind at all.

The reason I didn't answer your previous question is because I'm meant to be doing a whole bunch of noohootoo work, and I'm not smiley - wah

What's happened with Taff?


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Post 127

kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website

Oh, and, I don't have much energy for other people at the moment in general, it's not a personal thing about you even with what happened a few weeks ago. I've just needed some time attending to myself.


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Post 128

Effers;England.


He's not posting anymore here until noohootoo. And the under his new space which he's set up from home.

Thanks for being clear.

Because of my state of mind at present I can't make normal judgements or assumptions. It's more like a child's state of mind I suppose you'd call it.

I still feel so guilty about that thing that happened when I got quite deluded about you. It's part of this illness, that's why clarity helps. Stuff like that gnaws away at me because I don't like hurting people. I'm so sorry about that.

But that's good. Thanks.


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Post 129

kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website

I think it's really good that you asked. I like you being honest about how you are too.

Sometime I'd like to ask you about what happened in that time a few weeks ago. Partly because I'm interested in how life works for you, and partly because I'd like to know what you think should happen if you are in that state again (with me or anyone).

I don't feel up to that conversation just yet though.


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Post 130

Effers;England.

smiley - ok

I couldn't begin to contemplate such a thing for sometime.

I'm essentially a poet at heart. And it's nice to see what you are doing clearly again because I couldn't begin to know how to do it or understand it. The rain is clearing I think.

smiley - stiffdrink I'm fed up with smiley - teasmiley - winkeye

smiley - hug


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Post 131

kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website

All smiley - cool

Mostly what I'm doing is collecting information about the h2 Help Pages, and putting that in a spreadsheet so that the Interim Teams can prioritise which ones need rewriting urgently before we move.

Plus helping a bit with the Community Team.


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Post 132

Effers;England.


I know you're very busy and I won't bother you again for a bit.

But I thought I hadn't really said what an incredibly high opinion I have of you, and have had for ages, and all that you are doing in *reality* now. Especially as you are not feeling so good. I hope you have a really high opinion of yourself.

This might make you feel a bit better..I really hope.

smiley - strawberries

Okay that's it I won't bother you again for sometime..promise smiley - winkeye

Off to watch some golf.


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Post 133

Effers;England.


I sent off for the 'Unmaking and Making of an Analyst'.

Thing is for me Freud is hugely influential culturally. He's had huge influence on the arts and culture...and all the recent French philosophers

The conception of the Unconsious is the BIGGEST thing.

I'm looking forward to reading it. Because for most of the time I was with the analyst/psychotherapist I saw I was challenging the very basis of what she was doing...and didn't really believe in it as something literal.


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Post 134

kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website

I haven't read that one. I'll be interested to hear what you think.

I used to have an argument with a friend about Freud and the unconscious (not the friend who's written about Freud but one that was reading alot because she was interested in psychiatry). She said Freud discovered the unconscious. I maintained that humans had concepts of the unconscious for millennia before Freud came along, but that he conceptualised it in a different way. I've realised since I don't have any specific examples to back that up, but I'm wondering now if it's a distinctly western thing to view the unconscious as an individual thing whereas mostly peoples have seen it as something more universal. Not sure though, would have to think about that. And not to deny the value in what Freud conceptualised (leaving aside the whole oedipus/child abuse thing).

Mostly I was trying to point out to her that humans have always had various psychologies, whereas she seemed to think Freud invented it.


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Post 135

Effers;England.


I'll get back to you on this - could be an intersting conversation.

Actually that book is called Final analysis. That was just the sub-heading.

**
I just read that thread 'BBC email' on H2g2 future technical bid.

I'm pleased you felt able to be honest about how you are healthwise, and are feeling a bit better.

I know you don't go in for this, 'looking out for your mates' type stuff I do in my rough and ready way. But just to remind you, I am your mate. And I fully support you. dunno if that gets through to you as we often speak a different language. Anyway hopefully you get it a bit..

And man you have snow. It's warm and sunny here. I'll send you some. Hope you continue to feel a bit better.

Everything's going to be OK.


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Post 136

kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website

>>I know you don't go in for this, 'looking out for your mates' type stuff I do in my rough and ready way.

Um, no, that's fine, I'm not sure why you would think I wasn't ok with that.

Mostly I don't talk about my illness because it's such a big part of my daily life and hootoo has always been one of the main places where it's not central or even often apparent. I've seen lots of people here find good support around disability, but for me it's always been the opposite - the support has come from being able to be here and not have to be unwell. Doesn't really work at the moment because I'm doing c2 work and my unwellness is affecting that so it's harder to ignore.


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Post 137

kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website

Meant to say too, often I just don't have the emotional energy for things. It's why even though I have made good friends here I don't have contact with them offsite. I just don't have the energy for engaging in a good way. Being able to come to h2g2 and throw myself into the debate threads where I can let my brain loose without having to relate emotionally so much has been a godsend. It's been tricky because it's meant that personal convos here have taken a back seat often and I worry people will feel ignored. But it's more that personal convos take more care and attention whereas the debate threads I can do with my hands tied behind my back.

Or at least that's how it used to be. I don't seem to handle the debate threads so well any more. Not sure how much of that is me and how much the debate culture here has changed.


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Post 138

Effers;England.


I'm very pleased you get the 'mates' stuff...my misunderstanding.

And I understand the logic of what you say concerning your own disability and your relationship to h2g2.

Look I can't really explain properly but it's maybe to do with our different styles of writing of why I get frustrated sometimes and feel we don't really communicate or you get what I'm saying really. It's fiendishly complicated. But I don't want you to get burdened with what I'm saying. It'll be an interesting thing to maybe look at, at some point.

But as text is all we have, and I'm such a damned intense type person with a speeded up brain at present that feels like it soaks up information and knowledge from absolutely everywhere, it's a bit tricky. My problem of course does affect things here.

I tend to think in patterns fundamentally. Logic is just an add on.

Enough about me.

I look forward to having interesting discussions with you in the future smiley - ok


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Post 139

Effers;England.


simpost


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Post 140

kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website

>>Look I can't really explain properly but it's maybe to do with our different styles of writing of why I get frustrated sometimes and feel we don't really communicate or you get what I'm saying really.
<<

Do you mean in the debate threads or in the personal ones?


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