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Serephina Started conversation Nov 3, 2003
Hello
How'd you fancy helping me write an entry on Clive Barker for the guide?I was totally shocked that there isn't one already! (nor is there on the Amytiville horror but that's a different story or rather entry)
So i thougt d write one..but i's terribly unconfident with structuring
stuff like that (it comes out like the garble i think in ) and i couldnt think of anyone else on here who also likes Barker so i thought you might like to give me a hand
I might even be able to chat up a sub ed to go over it if it ends up any good.
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creachy Posted Nov 3, 2003
yeah, sure i don't know too much about Barker yet but anything you need i can get off the net
as for the Amityville entry, i am currently researching the whole conspiracy theory with that one cos i wanna include that in anything i write. it could be a long entry or a couple of installments. not sure yet
so, what exactly did you have in mind for the focus of this entry on Barker?
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Serephina Posted Nov 3, 2003
oh you was actually gonna do an entry on Amytilive? Great! ..we were looking for one the other night n theres nothing at all! you'd have to write it objectively though giving both sides..ive got Jay Ansons book here if it would be any help.
As for Barker there'll be a bit of research invlved to have enough detail for an entry.. but y'know a bit about his background, what hes wriiten, the movies etc.
what you doing here today anyway?
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Serephina Posted Nov 3, 2003
For instance i know before his first novel was published he won the world fantasy award.. but i dont knowhat year or what story for.. thats the sort of thing i'll have o go look up.
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creachy Posted Nov 3, 2003
just thought i'd catch up on some blog whilst i have time
no, don't worry about the book, i got about 12 sites to research from.
i was gonna do the story we all know and love/hide behind the couch from, and then perhaps the best way would be a seperate entry describing the conspiracies.
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creachy Posted Nov 3, 2003
sorry if i simpost ya, but i just thought of the perfect way to start your entry.
start it with the comments from a couple of select authors like Herbert and King. you know the ones on the back cover where they ask them what they think of this author..
'terrifying! absolutely shocking!' J. Herbert
like that
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Serephina Posted Nov 3, 2003
But as you say the conspiracys are only theories..the guidelines state that entries that are more or less personal beliief or one sided cant be put in the guide If however you were to write a well balanced entry..caled say..The Amytiville horror..Truth or Conspiracy? ..looking at the both sides of the coin..it'd probably not only make a really great entry but have a good chance of being edited.
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Serephina Posted Nov 3, 2003
S'ok ..i do it all the time
I only pretend to be
I always thought Stephen King's was the best one ..'I have seen the future of horror and his name is Clive Barker '..what a compliment!
Someone else once described him as being able to 'sprain your imagination'
I'll look up some bits n bobs at the library(might need a little help with that) and try n get it into an outline..then if you could go over it
for grammar n stuff n add anything thatll make it look a bit better(im a terrible writer!..which is a shame cos i couldve written a novel of ideas by now) that'd be great
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creachy Posted Nov 3, 2003
well, the wonderful thing about writing about the supernatural is it is all personal belief. especially this one, half the world believes it, half the world don't. i was gonna do the entry in a format with half the story making you think,'yeah, that really happened' but the other half going 'or maybe not', cool eh
but i will look at those guidelines
anyway, what you need for Barker?
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Serephina Posted Nov 3, 2003
Yeah thats sort of what i meant..so that you come acros as unbiased about it but still make others think
what would i need to start with let me think... something about that world fantasy award, a bit more about his theatre writing background, the books(what years) (i probably dont know ,remember all the titles )and the same for the films (ill probably di quite a bit big on 'Hellraiser')..thats all i can think of at the mo..
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creachy Posted Nov 3, 2003
a link for when you get to the library http://www.clivebarker.com
and some current info i got from a 60 second visit:
last updated 7th October 2003
Breaking News:
It was just announced that Seraphim Films sold a drama called DEMONOLOGIST to NBC. The pilot will be wriiten by Teddy Tenenbaum (Dead Zone) and Clive Barker will produce.
CLIVE GETS SEVERAL HONOURS AWARDED HIM
On October 11th, Clive is to be the recipient of the Tom of Finland Foundation's Cultural Icon Award. (The first recipient was Rob Halford / Judas Priest in 2001.)
On October 31st, Clive is to be crowned King of the Carnival on Halloween night, at WeHo's Halloween night in the city of West Hollywood.
On June 5th 2004, Clive is to be recipient of the prestigious GLAAD Davidson/Valentini award (named after Craig Davidson and Michael Valentini).
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Serephina Posted Nov 3, 2003
Hopefully i'll be able to ship josh back to school tomorrow (he had earache this morning) n get in there for a bit.
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creachy Posted Nov 4, 2003
that's a pretty good start
i got some of that info to fil the gaps:
Clive Barker, writer, producer, novelist, director, and playwright, was born by Cesarean section at 1:00 am on October 5, 1952, near Penny Lane, Liverpool. He first realized he could scare people with his words telling stories around a campfire with fellow Boy Scouts when he was ten years old. It gave him “a lovely sense of power.”
He started out writing and directing plays for a fringe theater company he formed in London, producing works such as “Frankenstein in Love,” “The History of the Devil,” and “Colossus,” a play about his favorite painter, Goya. These plays often delved into the erotic, the fantastical, and the horrific, themes that he would later become known for in his literary work. Many of his plays have been collected in two books, Incarnations and Forms of Heaven.
In his spare time, Barker wrote short horror fiction, not expecting to be able to sell it. However, the first publisher he showed it to asked for more, and his stories were published in three volumes in 1984, under the title, The Books of Blood. Moderately successful in Great Britain, the Books found wide critical acclaim in the United States, and now appear in over a dozen languages.
By 1987, two of Barker's stories had been adapted into movies — Rawhead Rex and Underworld. He was highly dissatisfied with both of them, and decided to direct something himself. The result was an adaptation of his story The Hellbound Heart — a film called Hellraiser.
Today, Barker's Seraphim Films is involved in CD-ROMs, live theater and art, as well as film and television production. Barker has done everything from major motion pictures for Universal to creating a line of superhero comics for Marvel called Razorline.
obviously we will have to restructure it else we'd just be plagerising and i doubt you need it all but it's interesting none the less
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Serephina Posted Nov 4, 2003
It looks to me like they're the way " " marks paste over
Cheers for that ..n of course i'll pick out bits n paraphrase it was there anything about this world fantasy award he won? im assuming it would be for books of blood or the damnation game.
will i get away with the quote ive used from the start of books of blood dya think?
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creachy Posted Nov 4, 2003
you can use as many quotes as you like as long as you reference to them bei8ng quotes and don't leave them to be looked at as your own work.
it is just better not to rely heavily on quotes if we have so many facts in front of us. i will just go look up that award
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Serephina Posted Nov 4, 2003
ta
They're the only ones i really wanted to use.. the stephen king one and the little bit at the start of books of blood cos i really like that and sortt of gives you a taste of what youd be getting if you read it..
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creachy Posted Nov 4, 2003
yeah, it all sounds cool. i'll muck around with guide ml for ya on it, and change the font style and size etc
1986 he won it for The Damnation Game
was it 1987 he published his first book, i will have to look that up as well.
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Serephina Posted Nov 4, 2003
No need ie got book of blood 1-3 n damnation game in front of me
Books of blood was published by Sphere books as 6 seperte vols in '84
and Damnation Game in '85
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