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Brasil

Post 1

Edward the Bonobo - Gone.

smiley - musicalnoteTall and tanned and young and lovely...smiley - musicalnote

From what I hear, you're basically right - except that black people are seldom in the top flight of society.

Film recommendation: Have you seen 'City of God'? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0317248/ It's rather brutal in places, but *extremely* good. Robert Altman said 'It's the best film ever made - or that will be made during my lifetime.'

Plus it features Brazilians dancing to the 70's disco classic, 'Kung Fu Fighting', yet somehow managing to still look cool.


Brasil

Post 2

Recumbentman

Yes I saw City of God, and remember it as very exciting, but in the end a little worthy. Is that the word I want? A little awkwardly contrived, like Tango or Nine Queens. But a terrific portrait of a frenetic city, and a great achievement to put it together.


Brasil

Post 3

Edward the Bonobo - Gone.

Ah! Someone else who's watched Nine Queens!

Amores Perros? Y Tu Mama Tambien?


Brasil

Post 4

Edward the Bonobo - Gone.

In City of God...wasn't there an implication that it was unusual to see a black face in a proper job at the newspaper? And that it was somewhat liberal for a white journalist to sleep with a black guy?

Well...I *say* 'white' - although white Brazilians tend to come in various gorgeous shades of cafe au lait.


Brasil

Post 5

Recumbentman

Sure, we could go on like this forever . . . what beats me is the way Halle Berry and Tiger Woods are called black, when they are in equal measure white and Asiatic respectively. But of course: racial terms are used to mean "non-white" . . . as in "touch of the tar brush".

Movies: Amores Perros, no; Y tu mama tambien, si! smiley - smiley


Brasil

Post 6

Edward the Bonobo - Gone.

the most appropriate adjective to describe Halle Berry - or Thandie Newto, who's in the excellent Crash is 'gorgeous' smiley - drool


Brasil

Post 7

Recumbentman

Hear hear, and same for Naomi Campbell.


Brasil

Post 8

Edward the Bonobo - Gone.

I've always had a thing for Naomi...although I'm led to believe she's 'Not A Nice Person.'


Brasil

Post 9

Edward the Bonobo - Gone.

btw - when I was younger and leaner and had a cooler haircut, I was told I had a remarkable resemblance to your fellow citizen who married her.


Brasil

Post 10

Recumbentman

Adam actually married her? I'd forgotten that.

A navuncular word of advice, though; if you limit your affection to Nice Persons you are liable to be lonely sooner or later . . . smiley - hug


Brasil

Post 11

Recumbentman

Which reminds me of one of my Dad's favourite verses:

If only the good were the clever!
If only the clever were good!
The world would be better than ever
We thought that it possibly could--

But alas, it is seldom or never
That either behave as they should;
For the good are so harsh to the clever,
The clever so rude to the good.


Brasil

Post 12

Edward the Bonobo - Gone.

Or, as my music teacher said...

The rain it raineth every day
Upon the just and unjust fella
But more it raineth on the just
For the unjust's got the just's umbrella.


Brasil

Post 13

Recumbentman

Another of my Dad's favourites!

Though I find he misquoted Elizabeth Wordsworth http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~martinh/poems/GOODAND


Brasil

Post 14

Edward the Bonobo - Gone.

In a related vein...

A friend of mine would often praise a favour with 'How noble!'. Which she's then spoil with 'And after all, 'tis better to be noble than to be handsome.'

Wilde?


Brasil

Post 15

Recumbentman

Not Wilde; at a guess he would have said the opposite. Let's a-googling go . . . well, that sure draws a blank!


Brasil

Post 16

Edward the Bonobo - Gone.

Which just goes to show that the web isn't the repository of all human wisdom after all.

No - I had the same thought about Wilde, but I thought it might have been one of his characters.


Brasil

Post 17

Recumbentman

Some 18th or 19th century novelist?


Brasil

Post 18

Edward the Bonobo - Gone.

Hmmm. The 'tis rather leads one in that direction.

You know...as I started typing, the name 'Disraeli' popped into my head. I've no idea where it bubbled up from - but it kind of fits, no?


Brasil

Post 19

Recumbentman

Don't see Disraeli saying anything so committal. All I know of him are wonderfully evasive sayings like "I'm on the side of the angels" and "All sensible men have the same religion [what is it?] -- sensible men don't say".


Brasil

Post 20

Edward the Bonobo - Gone.

>>I'm on the side of the angels

Good lord! Is that where it comes from? As you may have noticed, I say it myself. A few years ago I used to post to the R4 Word of Mouth and used it during a conversation with Michael Rosen hisself. Shortly afterwards, I heard him say it on the telly.

That's memes for yer!


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