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abbi normal "Putting on the Ritz" with Dr Frankenstein Started conversation Mar 17, 2005
http://www.reason.com/links/links021605.shtml
If it passes any law at any time and any judicial review can be waved by the Sec. of Homeland Security The reasons once again can be kept secret.
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abbi normal "Putting on the Ritz" with Dr Frankenstein Posted Mar 27, 2005
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0325/p09s02-cods.html?s=hns
The many reports about fabricated news reports. The phrase "moscow style news" is used in the descriptions.
I picked them all out as propaganda but one....
Wish they showed links to the video.
The journalistic and news format questions go along with the previous question what constitutes a journalists?
What is a news show where the commentator is paid to present a Bush program in a good light?
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http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0322/dailyUpdate.html
More on the tourture memos
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Tonsil Revenge (PG) Posted Mar 27, 2005
I try to keep my horse pucky detector switched on whenever dealing with "news".
Whatever the source. You have to remember that, regardless of any actual flaws Shrub has, there are "journalists" who will reach for any semblance of a "story".
A visit to the Jefferson administration would cover most of the bases.
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Tonsil Revenge (PG) Posted Mar 27, 2005
http://www.reason.com/links/links021605.shtml
read it
Doesn't really matter to me.
I, for one, would like to have a file on me somewhere that can be accessed by a magnetic strip on my DL, so that I don't have to keep filling out forms.
I also would like some form of ID that is usable all over the world.
I think your DL should also serve as your passport and your access to medical care.
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Tonsil Revenge (PG) Posted Mar 27, 2005
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0325/p09s02-cods.html?s=hns
Good old Daniel Schorr.
I like him. I have liked him for almost thirty years.
Actually, Bush is right. The media outputs don't have to take the feeds and the videos. Once they do, it is their responsibility to tell the viewers where they got it from.
The government has always, at least since the clay administration, been in the business of PR.
It doesn't help that a lot of the common peeples are bone stick stupid enough to believe any odd rumour that comes from outside the government but really really suspicious of anything official.
One's horse pucky detector should be on whenever they are told anything by anyone.
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Tonsil Revenge (PG) Posted Mar 27, 2005
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=2101143
"One's horse pucky detector should be on whenever they are told anything by anyone"
Including veteran newsmen like Daniel Schorr
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David Conway Posted Mar 27, 2005
The only "news" person I've ever come close to trusting was Walter Cronkite.
His line "It looks like we've got a bunch of thugs down there," uttered while he was doing live coverage of the 1972 Democratic National Convention, was as close to editorializing I ever know him to have gotten while reporting news, and even that was accurate. That was how it looked.
Not that he didn't offer up his opinion from time to time. When he did, he said that was what he was doing.
I televised an interview a few years ago (I don't remember with whom), He stated that the network only caved into political pressure once in telling him what to report and how to report it. That was when Nixon was still (just barely) in office and he had run the first of two planned pieces recapping the history of the Watergate scandal, planning to run the second piece the following evening. The network got a call from someone in the Nixon administration (Cronkite didn't know who, exactly), suggesting that the length of the first piece was excessive. The network "suggested" that he reduce the length of the second piece. He cut three minutes from what he ahd planned.
In the interview, Cronkite said that he had never forgiven the Nixon administration for preventing him from saying that the network had never told him what to report or how to report it.
NBY
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Tonsil Revenge (PG) Posted Mar 27, 2005
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=3810724&place=home01
Yeah, but even Cronkite was flummoxed, as were Huntley and Brinkley, by the Tonkin Gulf incident.
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David Conway Posted Mar 27, 2005
I'll give you that.
Tonkin Gulf non-incident may just be the biggest hoax perpertratedon the American public in recent memory, including Iraq's fictional possesion of "weapons of mass destruction," which a significant percentage of people didn't buy into.
It's kind of scary to know that the Tonkin Gulf Resolution passed the House unanimously and passed the Senate with only two dissenting votes.
NBY
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Tonsil Revenge (PG) Posted Mar 28, 2005
You should research the "War of Jenkin's Ear".
I thought Bush was making a mistake with the WMD thing, but considering what I knew then and what the public knows now about the state of our intelligence community's ignorance of what was really going on in Iraq, I think that a reasonable person given the "data" might have believed it.
Of course, speaking of hoaxes, there are people who are still upset about FDR's possible allowing of the attack on Pearl Harbour as a way of getting into the war. But if you really want to get into "wagging the dog", William Randolph Hearst's manufacturing of the Spanish-American War with the Maine incident truly has to be a classic.
That and the colonialization of the Canal Zone in Panama.
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abbi normal "Putting on the Ritz" with Dr Frankenstein Posted Mar 30, 2005
Never read about the War of Jenkins ear before!
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abbi normal "Putting on the Ritz" with Dr Frankenstein Posted Mar 30, 2005
NBY did you catch Walter C comments on Dan Rather and his career and retirement?
Very scathing!
Cronkite made a point of warning about the news and not decieving ourselves into thinking there would be more coverage with more stations, amoung other things, after his retirement.
He talked at length about the news industry on Now or a PBS documentry. I always hoped I'd see it again. It would be most appropriate to show now.
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Tonsil Revenge (PG) Posted Mar 31, 2005
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=3810724&place=home01
I think some of it is here.
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Tonsil Revenge (PG) Posted Mar 31, 2005
I used to know Walter's daughter, Kathy, when I lived in Austin and messed around with live theatre.
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